--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>   SUZANNE SEGAL
>     
>     Excerpts from:
> "Collision with the Infinite"
>   
>     PART I
>   In the Spring of 1982, Suzanne Segal, pregnant and 27,
> was living in Paris and waiting for a bus to take her home
> from a birthing class.

I wonder if the complete book says anything about
the rest of the pregnancy, the birth, and motherhood
in Segal's state of no-self.

<snip>
>   Tenshin Roshi Reb Anderson, of the Green Gulch Zen Center
> in San Francisco, helped her loosen a rigidity in the way
> her mind was interpreting the experience. He helped her to
> see that the experience of emptiness was bliss, but not
> relative bliss, rather the bliss of emptiness knowing itself.
> He imparted the knowledge that this absolute bliss cannot be
> known by the skandhas, thus the loosening of rigidity in her
> mind.

Similar to what MMY says, "Bliss isn't blissful"?

<snip>
>   "The 'character work' prescribed by psychotherapy, as
> well as by some spiritual traditions, including Zen
> Buddhism, leads to a similar trap created by not seeing
> things to be simply what they are. A relaxation of being
> naturally arises if one is not seduced into taking ideas
> to be truth. This relaxation is antithetical to
> 'character work', with its clear position about how we
> would be if our characters were worked on. When we knock
> on the door of 'character work', we are invited into the
> labyrinth of futurity. It is inherently impossible to
> arrive at a goal that is predicated on an 'I' that will
> get us there. Character work is based on the same
> erroneous belief that there is an individual doer who
> runs the show of life and can train itself to be a better 'I'.

*Very* interesting.


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