--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> <snip> 
> > I haven't read a lot of her stuff, but she is quoted here and on  
> > other lists every now and then. My question is, is this early 
> stages  
> > of a brain tumor experienced-thru-the-lens-of-an-SCI-and-advanced-
 
> > lecture-person? In other words, is this just another "hey look at 
> me  
> > and enlightened" and oh well it just happens to specifically fit 
> into  
> > everything I was taught? Oh and by the way, I died suddenly of a  
> > brain tumor that probably festered long before I died (real 
> dangerous  
> > pitfalls for anyone who ignores allopathic medical advice in TB 
> favor  
> > of "Ayurveda" or some other 'holistic panacea').
> > 
> > I don't mean this to sound controversial, I'm just not familiar  
> > enough (nor interested enough) with Ms. Segall and her life.
> > 
> > It's also interesting to me that for many practicing Jews, taking 
> the  
> > mantra of an Indian Pagan Goddess would be a major violation of 
a  
> > very primary Jewish mitzah, "take no other Gods before me". If 
> you  
> > were told as a child growing up this and this festered in the 
back 
> of  
> > your subconscious mind, would that not be a like a kind of mind- 
> > virus? It's a very basic conflict in your subconscious 
> programming.  
> > It's just one of the things I wonder could happen from not being 
> told  
> > the truth about what kind of meditation they are being instructed 
> in.
> > 
> > It's also very interesting that TMer descriptions of CC all fall 
> way  
> > short of the turiyatita traditional descriptions.
> > 
> > On the TMers dying theme, I also found of interest a recent post 
> on  
> > the Gilpin book from the ever-weird Guruphilia blog:
> > 
> > anonymous said...
> > An old friend of mine (an ex-TM teacher) lives in Fairfield and 
> does  
> > not attend the TM functions (at their request, because he openly  
> > hosted, Oh No!, other gurus at his home when they passed through  
> > Fairfield. He enjoys the drama when they go through town. He 
> still  
> > thinks TM is good, however. He recently told me that among those  
> > living there, many of the old-time TM teachers have turned to 
> drugs  
> > and alcohol. He said that many are addicted to pain killers or 
> are  
> > drunkards. He told me this very matter of factly, like it was 
> normal  
> > in any community in the US to have a large number of strung out  
> > people, but I found it very strange, given MMY's teachings.
> > 
> > I know that when I visited him in Fairfield a few years ago and 
> went  
> > to see some Guru-passing-through type who was a "healer" of some  
> > kind, there was a huge group of TMers who were active in the 
> domes,  
> > visiting the same guy, saying "shhh don't say you saw me 
> here".....  
> > Many many many of them had cancer and other horrible diseases 
> like  
> > debilitating arthritis. Most of them were between 25-50 years 
> old.  
> > The "healer", who happened to be from India, said he had never 
> seen  
> > so much disease in such a small, condensed population in his life.
> > 
> > What gives with the TM "research?" Is it all faked or what?
> > 
> > I practiced TM for awhile and don't think it harmed me. But what  
> > happened to all those people in Fairfield Iowa? And what in the 
> world  
> > is this about Princes and Rajas???
> > 
> > 12/03/2006 7:27 AM
> >
> I am *so* relieved you were able to find a box big enough for all 
of 
> this to fit so neatly into Vaj! :-)

Hehe. This Vaj fellow has only one agenda; try spreading as many 
unsubstiated rumours about TM-ers and TMO as posssible. I find him 
being more and more desperate as the success of the Invincebil 
America course is made known.


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