On Jan 8, 2007, at 12:15 PM, cardemaister wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Yes, exactly my point. It's mishra: mixed. Not pure.

Vyaasa doesn't seem to agree with you:


yathaa yathaa saMyamaH sthirapado bhavati tathaa tatheshvara-
prasaadaat *samaadhi-prajñaa ***VISHAARADII*** bhavati*


The more (yathaa yathaa) saMyama becomes (bhavati) firmly rooted
(sthirapado: sandhi for sthirapadaH) the more (tathaa tathaa;
tatheshvara...: sandhi for tathaa + iishvara) by the divine
grace (iishvara-prasaadaat) samaadhi-consciousness(?) (samaadhi-
prajñaa) becomes (bhavati) clear(?) (vishaaradii: feminine form
of 'vishaarada', agreeing with the feminine noun 'prajñaa').

 yathA [...]    [EMAIL PROTECTED]@tathA}*** or %{evaI74va} , `" in
whatever manner "' , -`" in that manner "' , `" according as "' or `"
in proportion as "' , -`" so "' , `" by how much the more'-`" by so
much "' , `"*** the more'-`" the more *** ;

 sthirapada     mf(%{A})n. firmly rooted

bhavati  (it) becomes

IzvaraprasAda   m. divine grace.

samaadhi-prajñaa  samaadhi-consciousness?

vizArada        mf(%{A})n. experienced , skilled or proficient in ,
conversant with (loc. or comp. ; %{-tva} n. Pan5cad.) Mn. MBh. &c. ;
learned , wise W. ; clever (as a speech) BhP. ; ***of a clear or
serene mind*** Lalit. [...]

Samyama's good side is that it helps fine-tune and hone our ability to discriminate finer aspects of awareness, it's downside is that if it is used for siddhis (e.g. yogic flying) we become more outward, more materialistic and fooled by the power of our own delusions (maya- shakti). So the sages say. Thus a method is given which does not necessitate using samyama and thus avoids it's pitfalls.

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