--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <peterklutz@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" > <msilver1951@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When someone starts meditating, is the flatness (separation > of > > Self > > > > > from sense perception) that they begin to feel is a prelude > to > > Cosmic > > > > > Consciousness or the beginnings of personality pathology that > > has > > > > > nothing to do with enlightenment? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the beginning of CC. > > > > > > > > > > > > The perception that you are outside your body is a pathological > > thing. CC isn't the same. > > > > > > > ************ > > > > Cosmic Consciousness means that one lives 24/7 one's real nature, > > bliss consciousness, and that phenomenal reality, including the > body, > > is experienced as separate from consciousness, although the > > relationship is friendly. It is only in Unity Consciousness that > this > > sense of duality is ended -- one sees a tree as a tree, but the > sense > > of it's being oneself is dominant. > > > > The term 'outside' as in 'outside the body' is used from a physical- > limited understanding, that things are understood to be outside the > body because this is how we experience the world, subject-object > relationships. So for lack of a better word or description, since the > Self is unlimited by space and time, i.e., nonlocalized, the > description, 'outside' in the case of witnessing would refer to 'not > connected' or un connected or disconnected, viewing from a different > point of dimensional-fulness-reality, etc. The idea of being out of > the body also refers to grosser astral perceptions in which a denser > (astral) spirit can move out of the physical-body dimension. > Witnessing gives an idea of watching but not necessarily from a > distance. >
As you imply, it is not only space people witnessing is disconnected from, but from all of the oneness of space-time continuum - with the practical result of people also feeling disconnected from the present - the here and now - when witnessing. In fact, I suspect this is the first encounter most TMers have with witnessing - the feeling of being lost in time after a deep meditation. Lost in space comes later :-)
