Vaj wrote:
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> On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:58 AM, george_deforest wrote:
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>> How to use a Mantra in Yoga Practice
>> by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati
>>
>> http://www.swamij.com/mantra-use.htm
>>
>> this strikes me as a good un-biased overview,
>> and btw, TM manages to hit all the high points...
>> confirming that technique-wise, maharishi got it right!
>>
>> ("Swami J" is American-born, yet ordained into Swami order in India)
>
>
> Hi George:
>
> Don't be fooled. The basic technique is similar, but also in many ways 
> very different. First of all, in this Shankaracharya tradition 
> technique, it's taught properly. One starts out with learning proper 
> asana, then breath awareness and then purification of the subtle 
> channels with pranayama. After the student is observed for a period, 
> usually months of time, then and only does one get a mantra. And it's 
> not a mantra off a memorized list, it's mantra based on the student. 
> The student can also have their mantra changed if needed. And it get's 
> more advanced from there. That's why you don't see the side-effects 
> and causalities in that tradition like you do TM, where many people 
> have negative side-effects.
>
> Here's a synopsis of that particular tradition by it's primary 
> exemplar (now deceased), "Swami" Rama. I included the entire quote for 
> context:
>
> "Our Tradition
>
> Shankaracharya established an ascetic order 1,200 years ago, though 
> renunciates had already lived in an unbroken lineage from the Vedic 
> period. He organized his orders through five main centers in the 
> North, East, South, West, and center of India. The entire ascetic 
> order of India traces its tradition from one of these centers. Our 
> tradition is Bharati. Bha means "knowledge;" rati means "lover." 
> Bharati means, "he who is the lover of knowledge." From this comes the 
> word Bharata, the land of spiritual knowledge, one of the Sanskrit 
> names used for India.
>
> There is one thing unique to our tradition. It links itself to an 
> unbroken lineage of sages even beyond Shankara. Our Himalayan 
> tradition, though a tradition of Shankara, is purely ascetic, and is 
> practiced in the Himalayan caves rather than being related with 
> institutions established in the plains of India. In our tradition. 
> learning of the Upanishads is very important, along with the special 
> advanced spiritual practices taught by the sages. The Mandukya  
> Upanishad is accepted as one of the authoritative scriptures.
>
> The knowledge of Sri Vidya is imparted stage by stage and the advanced 
> student is taught Prayoga Shastra. * We believe in both the Mother and 
> the Father principles of the universe. That which is called maya or 
> illusion, in our worship becomes the Mother and does not remain as a 
> stumbling block or obstacle on the path of spiritual enlightenment. 
> All of our worship is internal and we do not perform any rituals. 
> There are three stages of initiation given according to our tradition. 
> First, mantra, breath awareness, and meditation; second, inner worship 
> of Sri Vidya and bindu vedhan (piercing the pearl of wisdom); third, 
> shaktipata and leading the force of kundalini to the thousand-petaled 
> lotus called sahasrara chakra. At this stage, we do not associate 
> ourselves with any particular religion, caste, sex, or color. Such 
> yogis are called masters and are allowed to impart the traditional 
> knowledge. We strictly follow the discipline of the sages.
>
> It is not possible for me to discuss in detail the secret teachings of 
> Prayoga Shastra for it is said, "na datavyam, na datavyam, na 
> datavyam" -- "don't impart, don't impart, don't impart" unless someone 
> is fully prepared and committed and has practiced self-control to a 
> high degree. These attainments can be verified through the experiences 
> of the sages of the past. In our path, gurudeva is not a god but a 
> bright being who has faithfully and sincerely attained a state of 
> enlightenment. We believe in the grace of the guru as the highest 
> means for enlightenment, but never as the end. The purpose of the guru 
> is to selflessly help his disciples on the way to perfection.
>
> Our tradition has the following orientation:
>
> 1. One absolute without a second is our philosophy.
>
> 2. Serving humanity through selflessness is an expression of love 
> which one should follow through mind, action, and speech.
>
> 3. The yoga system of Patanjali is a preliminary step accepted by us 
> for the higher practices in our tradition, but philosophically we 
> follow the Advaita system of one absolute without a second.
>
> 4. Meditation is systematized by stilling the body, having serene 
> breath, and controlling the mind.
> Breath awareness, control of the autonomic nervous system, and 
> learning to discipline primitive urges are practiced.
>
> 5. We teach the middle path to students in general, and those who are 
> prepared for higher steps of learning have the opportunity to learn 
> the advanced practices. This helps people in general in their daily 
> lives to live in the world and yet remain above. Our method, for the 
> convenience of Western students, is called Superconscious Meditation. 
> I am only a messenger delivering the wisdom of the Himalayan sages of 
> this tradition, and whatever spontaneously comes from the center of 
> intuition, that I teach. I never prepare my lectures or speeches, for 
> I was told by my master not to do so.
>
> 6. We do not believe in conversion, changing cultural habits, or 
> introducing any God in particular. We respect all religions equally, 
> loving all and excluding none. Neither do we oppose any temple, 
> mosque, or church, nor do we believe in building homes for God while 
> ignoring human beings. Our firm belief is that every human being is a 
> living institution or a temple
>
> 7. Our members are all over the world, and for the sake of 
> communication we also believe in education. Our graduate program 
> imparts the knowledge given by the sages, thereby fulfilling the inner 
> need of intellectuals.
>
> 8. We practice vegetarianism. We teach a nutritional diet that is 
> healthy and good for longevity, but at the same time we are not rigid 
> and do not force student to become vegetarians.
>
> 9. We respect the institution of the family and stress the education 
> of children by introducing a self-training
> program and not by forcing our beliefs, faiths, and way of life on them.
>
> 10. Our trained teachers systematically impart all aspects of yoga 
> relating to body, breath, mind, and individual soul. Awareness within 
> and without is the key, and the methods of expansion are carefully 
> introduced to the students.
>
> 11. To serve humanity, we believe in examining, verifying, and coming 
> to certain conclusions regarding the yoga practices, including 
> relaxation and meditation.
>
> 12. Our experiments are documented and published for the benefit of 
> humanity.
>
> 13. We believe in universal brotherhood, loving all and excluding none.
>
> 14. We strictly abstain from politics and from opposing any religion.
>
> 15. Of great importance is the practice of non-violence with mind, 
> action, and speech.
>
> The knowledge that is imparted by the sages and masters of the 
> Himalayas guides the aspirant like a light in the darkness. The 
> purpose of this message is to awaken the divine flame that resides in 
> the reservoir of every human being. This flame, when perfectly kindled 
> by spiritual discipline, mounts higher and higher into the vast light 
> of truth. It rises through the vital or nervous mind, passes through 
> our mental sky, and finally enters at the paradise of light, its own 
> supreme home in the eternal truth. Then the illumined practitioner 
> sits calm in his celestial sessions with the highest of powers and 
> drinks the wine of infinite beatitude. This child of immortality is a 
> child of universal parents, protected all the time by the Mother 
> Divine. This rapturous child of bliss remains divine will intoxicated 
> in delight. He becomes a sage, a sleepless envoy and ever-wakeful 
> guide for those who tread the path. Such a leader on the path marches 
> in front of human people to comfort, help, and enlighten them."
>
> Om, Shanti. Shanti, Shanti.
>
> * Which explains the practicality and application of the discipline 
> one has to follow for this knowledge.
>
>
In my tradition (Kali) we also teach meditation to the masses starting 
with asana, then pranayam and finally the mantra.  This can be moderated 
of course if you have someone who has already practiced some of these 
things so it is at the discretion of the teacher.   We don't have 
"middle path" per se.  Serious students can continue on and get the 
"tantric initiation" to begin learning tantra and attain the various 
stages of competency.  Again Shiva and Shanti mantras are felt safe to 
use for the public and Agni mantras only for the advanced pupils.

We also have to keep in mind that the Shankaracharya (Shiva tradition) 
also predominantly dealt with Indians who were already following many of 
the things listed and these things may not integrate so well into a 
westerner's life.  I would be curious what they taught if someone wanted 
a "casual meditation" practice or if they just shooed them away.  :)

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