I agree with you on not being able to judge whether one is more enlightened than the other. I find I know next to nothing about Guru Dev -- other than Paul Mason's work in translating satsangs and one book, which I think was called "The Real Thing", which I read many years ago.
As to the Maharishi's influence being greater, I think you are on dangerous ground there. L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology claims to be much larger than the Maharishi's movement, although they started around the same time. Scientology also has a much larger impact on our culture, featured as it is in the news on a daily basis. By your reasoning, would L. Ron Hubbard be a greater spiritual leader than the Maharishi? If not, why not? Should we all go become Scientology 'bots? I don't mean to be facetious. How to judge the "success" of a spiritual master -- at least a mass-market one, such as the Maharishi and L. Ron -- is a thorny issue worthy of discussion. J. --- John M. Knapp, LMSW TM-Free Blog: 99 & 44/100% TM Free! Google-bomb the TM Org! Make us #1 on Google when you link to http://tmfree.blogspot.com! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Lawson, > > > > Could you expand a little on your thought, please? In what ways do you > > believe the > > Maharishi has grown beyond Guru Dev? > > > > > Well, the original context was Paul's posting of Gurudev's comments on > siddhis. I was merely > pointing out, but not clearly, I'll agree, that MMY's experience and > understanding of siddhis > techniques has gone beyond Gurudev's. > > Paul's reaction, along with others, made me decide to play devil's advocate > and see where > everything went. As to questions of whether or not MMY is "more" enlightened > than Gurudev, > I don't think that there is any way of judging such things, though I'm > pretty sure that that is > how everyone took my comments and I certainly let them think that way. > > Another way in which MMY has obviously gone beyond Gurudev includes his > direct influence > on the world (not just because Gurudev is no longer with us, but by > comparison to his > historical presence and MMY's). >
