--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<jflanegi@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
<no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > If it weren't for the by far greater number of spiritual
> > > > > > seekers who do NOT fall into this trap and become 
fanatics,
> > > > > > the few who *become* fanatics would stand as a blanket
> > > > > > condemnation of spirituality and the spiritual path 
itself.
> > > > > > Fortunately, the balanced, sane followers of spiritual
> > > > > > paths are more numerous, and represent well the same 
> > > > > > traditions that the unsane fanatics make a mockery of.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Barry's shoot-the-messenger demonization
> > > > > tendencies are brilliantly on display in this
> > > > > post. And note that his rant represents the
> > > > > identical us-vs.-them kind of polarization he's
> > > > > decrying: reasonable people vs. "fanatics,"
> > > > > sane vs. "unsane."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Fanaticism, unreasonableness, and "unsanity"
> > > > > exist at the extremes of both sides of these
> > > > > issues.  In between there's a wide range of
> > > > > views, but there's no such middle ground for
> > > > > Barry.  Distinguishing between shades of gray
> > > > > is "hard work" that it's just too much trouble
> > > > > for him to undertake.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Barry Wright, Master of Inadvertent Irony.
> > > > 
> > > > Yep, he is someone who is only comfortable in a black and 
> > > > white world. The fanatics of which he speaks only exist 
> > > > in the comfort of his unenlightened mind, where he creates 
> > > > them in order to have a false foundation from which to make 
> > > > sense of an illusionary world.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Uh, Judy and Jim...
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to understand why you're reacting so
> > > strongly above to what I wrote. Did you somehow
> > > think that I was referring to YOU?
> > 
> > Actually not, since you had recently made it clear
> > in another (admittedly bizarre) post how amazed you
> > were and how shocking it was that Jim and I would be
> > willing to express an opinion similar to that of the
> > folks you designated as "the crazies."
> > 
> > That in itself was odd, given how insistent you had
> > been up until that post that Jim and I were "unsane
> > fanatics." But apparently the post represented a new
> > "state of attention" that, while it meant you had to
> > give up the "fanatics" line of attack, opened up the
> > potential of a whole new line of demonization in
> > which Jim's and my integrity and "values" could be
> > called in question because <gasp> we were willing to
> > risk a guilt-by-association smear from you by taking a
> > position also held by the "crazies."
> > 
> > In any case, whichever side of your us-vs.-them
> > formula you choose to place me and Jim on any given
> > day, *my* point was the formula itself and your need
> > to put people on one side or the other.  It was a
> > "strong  reaction," in other words, to yet another
> > manifestation of your tendency to project your own
> > behavior onto others and then proceed to demonize
> > them.
> 
> You still seem to be ranting, when all you had
> to do was respond to one question,

Well, no, I was actually responding to your first
question, you see.  Did you forget you'd asked
that one?

 which you seem
> to have accidentally snipped from your reply:
> 
> Do you NOT consider the two TMers who referred to 
> Paul Mason as a demon or who suggested that he was 
> in league with demonic forces to be fanatics?

I don't make those kinds of demonizing fanatic/
nonfanatic distinctions. I don't think calling
someone a fanatic makes any more sense than
calling them a demon.


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