Yes it is clear that time does not exist from the point of view of 
physics, and Barbour is correct that most problems in physics arise 
from the assumption that it does. Time is a convenient illusion that 
is set up by the internal necessity of the universe to interact 
within itself, but the pre-Planck era has no discernible difference 
from the sub-Planck scale of this era. Therefore those two quantum 
regions/existencies are one and the same.  
The activities of the universe are same now as they were in 
the "beginning". From our human level, we call it 'story', but it is 
just the interplay of forces by necessity. Lastly, the second 
mistake that science makes is to assume that the hard workings of 
nature or physics are alien to us and therefore harsh, but that is a 
fallacious assumtion. The "harsh forces of nature"... they are who 
we are, we are not distinct from them, therefore we are at home and 
blissful within this realm. It is our playground, and it is us.

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "coshlnx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i.e. not from a neo-Advaitin point of view since nothing exists 
from 
> that point of  view.  From a strictly relative point of view, 
Barbour 
> argues that time doesn't exist.  As a physicist, he has to support 
> this by a mathematical proof or an abundance of circumstantial 
> evidence.
> From wiki:
> 
> Julian Barbour (born 1937) is a British physicist with research 
> interests in loop quantum gravity. He is the author of The End of 
> Time, The Discovery of Dynamics and Absolute or Relative Motion?. 
He 
> has also co-authored books with Vladimir Pavlovich Vizgin and with 
> Herbert Pfister.
> 
> He holds the controversial view that time does not exist, and that 
> most of physics' problems arise from assuming that it does exist. 
He 
> argues that we have no evidence of the past other than our memory 
of 
> it, and no evidence of the future other than our belief in it. It 
is 
> all an illusion: there is no motion and no change. He argues that 
the 
> illusion of time is what we interpret through what he calls "time 
> capsules," which are "any fixed pattern that creates or encodes 
the 
> appearance of motion, change or history."
> 
> Barbour lives in Oxford, England. Since receiving his Ph. D. on 
the 
> foundations of Einstein's general theory of relativity at the 
> University of Cologne in 1968, he has supported himself and his 
> family without a job in academia, working part time as a 
translator 
> to leave him ample time to think about the nature of time.
>


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