new.morning wrote: > I am not sure if "promise" is the word, but > in Nov 1967 in Berkeley MMY talked specifically > about how TM would result in CC in 5 years for > students -- and even had a pamphlet to go along > with it which had the 5 years in writing. > Maybe so, but I helped Jerry Jarvis set up SIMS at Berkely in 1967 and I was in charge of all printed literature at that time - no pamplet made that claim that I ever sent to the printer.
According to Barry, he used to pass out leaflets whith a promise for enlightenemnt, but I never saw such. In fact, in over ten years of reading posts on AMT, not one single respondent has ever been able to substantiaite this silly claim. Lon P. Stacks on AMT was unable to post such a quotation from any printed matter and he was the manager of MIU Press at Livingston Manor. > The impression of many -- and most of my friends > and peers at the time -- was that doing the > program for five years faithfully would result > in CC. It was a common assumption, a given, in > those days. > This claim, if made, would be non-sensical, since by 1967, several hundred people had already been practicing TM for over ten years without attaining CC. Maharishi himself never claimed to be in CC and supposedly he had been practicing TM since 1947. In fact, Maharishi said that TM WAS NOT the cause of enlightenemnt - the practice of TM simply provides the opportunity for transcending. According to Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Brahman is Light itself - it needs no other light to illuminate it. Obviously you are mistaken and Rory is certainly not infallible since he can't even remember the news forums that he posts to. However, the claim made below by Rory is obviously false. There's a lot of stuff that just seems to be made up by some of you ex-TMers - why, I don't know. What do you think? "Finally, he declared himself infallible; he actually said, "I never make mistakes," which immediately reminded me of many errors he had made: first claiming that all meditators would reach Cosmic Consciousness in a few months, later adjusting the estimate upward to two-to-three years, then readjusting up to three-to-five years, then up again to five-to-eight years..." - Rory Goff Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Petrus Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:56:58 -0700 Subject: Re: 5 to 8 yrs to Enlightenment !! http://tinyurl.com/2muq22
