Many thanks, Rick! It's been fun to explore these energies. A few thoughts interspersed below...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This was from the friend (whom you call "The Purusha Guy" but who is > actually married) with whom I've been having that discussion. Evidently he > shared our discussion with a mutual friend, whose identity I'm not told, as > I shared it with all of you, and then forwarded that friend's comments to > me, as I've forwarded some of yours to him: > > Doubt, Disappointment and Rejection are most damaging to the nervous system > (Maharishi said). Invoking an External Authority *really* doesn't do it for me, doesn't touch my Heart. "Maharishi says" and "Maharishi said" or "the Dalai Lama says" or "the Bible says" are so often used as a hammer to smite the Unfaithful, intended to squelch independent thought (Eclecticism) -- right up there with threatening them with going to Patala-Hell. Fundamentalism, in short. A Fundamentalist is threatened by so many "bad" things, as if they are outside the self, things to somehow be avoided. Attraction- Aversion still runs unchallenged. To an Eclectic or Lover or Anandist, it's not Doubt, Disappointment and Rejection -- and Anger, let's not forget Anger -- that are damaging; it's the further *denial* of these particles that is damaging! Again, it appears here as if a POV-4 Love-truth -- that we can (and constantly do) choose our state of consciousness -- is being warped into a POV-2 Fundamentalist stance of mood-making and denial. But I guess that's just the dynamics of how any given harmonic is interpreted by the next "younger" one. It is fascinating, all right. > In considering the intrapsychic mechanics of what took place in Rick (and > others) I would guess (because, of course, I don't know) the real issue with > Rick and other seekers (I would classify them as seekers again, as they were > before they had Maharishi), A POV-2 Fundamentalist "knower" *cannot* comprehend a POV-3 Eclectic, but has to place them back in POV-1, as a Chaotic/evil "seeker". In general a POV-4 Lover has fully embraced POV-3 doubt and despair and anger and Hell, and is no longer afraid of them, no longer sees them as outside the self; it is all perfect, though there are certainly residual particles from the past to be fully understood, loved and healed ...the Fundamentalist-self, for example :-) >is that it all began with doubt (that sprung up > due to expectation)--which led to disappointment, and in Ricks case being > asked essentially to leave the movement--rejection. > A rational, evolved, loving, soul like Ricky is not going to go smash > windows in the dome or lead a march against the movement--So, what to do > then with the hurt, anger, frustration? Gotta go some where-- (that's the > law of dynamics--and psychodynamics--the energy in a system must express its > self in the system--impress its influence on the system) so it gets > sublimated into a "rational," "open" discussion on essentially, the validity > of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite aggressive in nature, but, the attack > is conducted by the frontal cortex--not the limbic system (which is the > primitive lizard brain) This is equally true of the POV-3 Eclectic and the POV-2 Fundamentalist. The only difference is, the POV-3 Eclectic is no longer denying these qualities, so they are much less "toxic" and "damaging to the nervous system" then they were in POV-2. Denial is tamas (POV-2 Fundamentalism); acting out is rajas (POV-3 Eclecticism); unconditional clarity/truth is sattva (POV-4 Love)... lather, rinse, repeat? :-) > So it appears reasoned, open, and flexible. In > actuality it is an "as if" debate. One appears as if he is not angry, > frustrated, rejected and vengeful and attacking. One appears "as if" he > wants to openly and lovingly discuss the issue--but that is the filter of > the frontal cortex! Anger, aggression and vengeance are the underlying > dynamics. They certainly are -- this letter reeks of unacknowledged anger, aggression and vengeance! LOVE It! Yummm! Nothing like a little salsa to liven up a meal. > Patanjali does endorse in the Yoga sutras, "any reliable meditation." He > therefore give his blessings on different forms of meditation--So it seems > to me, that when we get to Brahman there will be a large number of saints > somewhere in the Akash that have arrived there from a variety of means--some > faster--some slower--I mean everyone we know of who got enlightened got > there by a slightly different path (Maharaja, Ramakrishna, the Buddha, etc.) > > > > But, I don't know anybody who got there by bashing their previous master and > trying to get others to join them. Again, this is a *perfect* example of how a POV-2 has to see a POV-3. My question now is, could this actually be a higher resonance of the field-state -- POV-6 or POV-8, say, that I am not recognizing? I bet on some levels it Absolutely is! Sweet! :-) *L*L*L*
