---Turq, your intuitions are faulty. You don't see the big picture.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <qntmpkt@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Has a Jyotish and Yagya program. CD's and DVD's available too. > > > > http://www.expertvedicastrology.com > > > > > > > > As a US headquarters base in Hawaii, you can send US $ to their > > > > HQ and not bother with converting $ to rupees. > > > > > > As to where your US $ go and your expected Return > > > On Investment, I offer a crude start at validating > > > the effect of Yagyas (as per the announced effect > > > of the Yagya) vs. some kind of objective measure > > > of its actual effect. > > > > > > The first link documents the announced intention of > > > one Yagya offered by this fellow, and its cost ($11,000). > > > > > > http://www.expertvedicastrology.com/index.php? pr=Yagya_for_World_Peace > > > > > > The second link documents the ongoing conflicts in > > > the world during 2006: > > > > > > http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904550.html > > > > > > It would seem that the benefactors who donated to this > > > Yagya, other than the "feel good" benefit of contributing > > > to a supposedly noble cause, got at least 20 continuing > > > significant armed conflicts for their money. That's less > > > than $500 US per war, which some would consider a bargain. > > > One of the conflicts (the one in Sri Lanka, fairly close > > > to the "broadcast tower" for the Yagya's Woo Woo Rays) > > > actually had a four-year cease fire fall apart and revert > > > to armed conflict again shortly after the Yagya was > > > performed. > > > > > > T'would seem that either the gods aren't listening, or > > > perhaps the 121 pundits got the pronunciation of one of > > > the verses slightly wrong. Either that, or the Yagya > > > was a total success, and accomplished its intended effect > > > (bringing in $11,000) perfectly. > > > > Even if the Yagya brings less than what you have defined > > as total success, is that justification for not doing it > > at all? I don't get that logic. > > Did I suggest that? I think that people should > do whatever they think that they should do. If > someone gets off by paying $11,000 for a yagya, > more power to them. If someone else gets off by > taking that $11,000 and burning it in their > fireplace, more power to them. All that I'm > suggesting is that the *effect* of these two > actions -- both of which bring a sense of > satisfaction and pleasure to the person who is > supplying the money for them -- may be exactly > the same. :-) > > > It is not a black and white world, imo. Your comment is > > like finding out from the physician that to attempt to > > cure your total inability to walk will result in walking > > with a pronounced limp, so you then declare to the doctor, > > "well then, forget it, I'll continue in my wheelchair". > > Rather false analogy. What I am suggesting is > that there is a possibility that the doctor > who promises to cure you never attended med > school, and has no knowledge that *could* > improve you. If you "improve" as a result > of his "care," it's the result of your > belief that you would improve -- in other > words, the placebo effect. > > You are trying to make the case *for* yagyas > because intuitively you believe they have some > effect. I am merely saying that intuitively I > suspect they have no effect at all, *except* > on the level of the placebo effect. > > BUT, if it makes you happy to send your money > off to Hawaii, and then you look at the world > and see some positive results from your "invest- > ment" in the yagyas, cool. The only point I'm > making is that I'd be willing to bet that (as > we have certainly seen with the "selective > vision" with which the TMO tends to view world > events to justify their fund-raising flying > courses), the more you "invest" in the yagya, > the more you might be tempted to *imagine* > positive results. As you seem to be doing here, > you could look at a year in which the number > of wars possibly increased and say, "Well, > they might have increased *more* if I hadn't > paid for the yagya." That's cool, too, but I > think it's a tough sell to those who suspect > that the real motivation for performing yagyas > is to pay for the lives of those who perform > yagyas. :-) > > > ??? I would add that like any endeavor, large or small, > > intution and common sense are the best guides on > > whether or not to proceed. :-) > > That's what I'm suggesting, too. If someone claims > to be able to bring about world peace by hiring > 121 people to chant for 11 days, I'd expect to > see some measure of world peace as a result. If > I don't, I'd begin to think that I was ripped off. > > You seem to be wearing rose-colored glasses that > enable you to see a year's worth of wars as world > peace, so you can justify the "investment" in > such a yagya. That seems to be your definition > of "intuition and common sense." Me, I have a > slightly different definition, that's all. > > You have my full permission to send as much of > your money as you want to these people. I don't > have any problem with that at all. Or, if you > want to cover *all* the bases, you can send some > cash to me as well. I promise to burn it in my > fireplace. :-) >
