On Jun 4, 2007, at 4:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Does anyone else notice the similarity of the Judyspeak below to the recent postings by Lisa and Joe? The *emphasis* is not on the relevant issue (in this case, whether TMers were ripped off by fellow TMers), but on establishing the person who "thinks incorrectly" (in this case, Vaj) as a "bad person," a "liar."
Very similar.
THAT is what Lisa and Joe have built their "career" on, while "defending" Sai Baba. THAT is what Judy Stein has built *her* "career" on, while "defending" Maharishi. It would be different, IMO, if, when confronted by a post critical of Maharishi or the TMO, Judy dealt with the discernible facts and ONLY the facts. Google away! Provide all the documentation in the world to support your stance. HOWEVER, when you can't leave it at that, and feel that you *have* to follow up the facts by trying to get everyone here to agree that the other person is a "liar," or "intellectually dishonest" or otherwise untrustworthy, THEN you have crossed the border into compulsive ad hominem, into "shoot the messenger."
Or email them to death--fortunately the current format discourages such terrorist email tactics.
IMO, for Lisa and Joe, ad hominem is a way of life. They *live* to demonize the critics of Sai Baba. And as a result they have lost the respect of pretty much every forum they have ever touched. IMO, for Judy, sadly (because it's a waste of a good intellect), ad hominem had also become a way of life. And Judy wonders why she "don't get no respect" here. And the saddest part is that all three actually feel GOOD about what they do. They see themselves as some kind of hero, fighting for truth, justice, and the American Way.
Or the natural law way :-)
The day that Judy can respond to the facts and *leave* it at the facts, without including one of her "zingers" at the end of the post urging other readers to think of the person she's debating with or refuting as a liar or a fool or intentionally misleading, then I'll "promote" her to "aspiring hero." Until then, she's just a mean-spirited bitch who gets off on trying to convince others that they should hate the same people she hates.
It was always interesting to me, that whether or not the posts you make even deal with her or anything she might be marginally interested in, our dear Judy will feel the knee-jerk necessity (or obsession) to respond to your emails, if only for the chance to make some negative remark or to try to cast you in some bad light.