On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:05 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 12, 2007, at 11:06 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > Interesting NLP story. > > > > > > One of the meditative processes I've found very valuable was a > > > technique which actually projects habitual subtle and > > > super-subtle > > > thoughts into three dimensional space, to the extent that, sans > > > external testing cues, you could not tell it from from waking > > > reality. If you could jump outside of the thought-loops that > > > caused > > > the "reality" to manifest, you could be free of it and the > > > thought > > > patterns would "self liberate". However, if you accepted them as > > > real, you would be stuck there for an indeterminate amount of > > > time. > > > > Sounds like the Bardo. :-) > > Felt like it too: the visions were preceded by deafening sound > and blinding light I felt for sure would tear me apart. And, judging from your description above, there's the same lesson to be learned. No "me," no "me" to be torn apart. :-)
Eventually, that conclusion is reached simply because the root luminosity is so stable. If you keep any tension going through holding onto a subject-object idea, you just stay there. The odd thing about this style of samadhi is the characteristics of simultaneity are readily apparent. I would simultaneously have the experience of my body and my breath spontaneously being held in kumbhaka, the luminosity and the process of the arising of creation in a non-linear fashion. It's really quite difficult to describe in linear words because it did not happen in a linear way, it was all simultaneous (but separate at the same time). After that was intuitively understood, you realized all you needed to do was "die".
