Bhairitu wrote:
> The first time I tried meditation which was some 
> three years before learning TM my kundalini rose 
> (it was like going up into the middle of the Sun).  
>
In my case, I was born enlightened, so all I had to 
do was awaken to reality and then try to maintain 
that state in my daily life. So, I learned to relax 
and stop striving. I realized that in this life I'm 
only going to get as much enlightenment as I'm going 
to get. All I have to do now is lead a harmless life 
and try to do what is right - follow natural law and 
have compassion for the less unfortunate. 

> This from a mantra in a book which morphed as I 
> practiced it. By the time I came to TM I had tried 
> other techniques and had read Ramana Maharishi 
> teachings extensively. 
> 
However, just because you experienced an instant of 
childish insight doesn't translate to making up an 
international movement to spiritually regenerate 
the entire world. For that you would have to have 
a simply, easily taught technique. 

> I did TM to find out what an institutionalized 
> program was like. Even prior to the kundalini 
> experience I had spiritual experiences as a child.  
> My guru says this is an indicator that I was on 
> the path in previous lifetimes.  
>
Maybe so, this also happened to the historical 
Buddha. Your current sadhana probably involves 
numerous strings of non-sense syllables and numerous 
hand gestures and the concentration on a candle 
flame for hours on end. That's not something that 
the average person has time or the inclination 
to do. In fact, most people would probably think 
your insane if they saw you trying to suck your 
big toe.

> I believe this as I have run into TM practitioners 
> who say even after 30 years they have yet to have 
> a > clear experience of transcending.
>
But it is difficult to understand why some 
individuals would attend a TTC for six months and 
then for years mix up and pass out the kool-aid 
when they themselves couldn't even transcend for 
a single moment. Maybe the students you taught 
were in a hypnotic trance-induction state. How do 
you know that you and they haven't been the 
victim of simple suggestability? You didn't 
mention any of the marks that would indicate that 
you experienced any bliss conciousness. What's 
up with that? It's alright, I guess, to imagine 
a snake up your ass, but what good is it in 
real life?

You need to get some smarts, Bharat2, everyone 
meditates, but you failed to even define what 
meditation is. Meditation means to 'think things 
over' and based on that definition, everyone 
who can think, meditates. And you need to cut 
the bullshit - everyone transcends, all the time.
Meditation is just what intelligent people do. 

TM simply provides a more ideal opportunity for 
the transcending. As a technique it is second to 
none, in my opinion, and I've studied under 
numerous teachers. TM sure surpasses in 
effectiveness the concentration on the tip of 
the nose taught by most yoga teachers!  

You can't seem to cite a single teacher or 
technique that provides a simple, easily learned
technique for effortless transcending. That's my
point.

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