--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> >Rory wrote:
> 
> > > Yes, I have found as long as "I" am claiming C.C., G.C., or 
U.C., 
> > > and "Brahman" has not yet claimed "me," I am not fully 
liberated, 
> > and 
> > > am still attached or bound to experience. 
> > > 
> > > Along these same lines, when you were asking about how we fall 
> > into 
> > > ignorance, I find that consciousness *constantly* collapses 
into 
> > the 
> > > particle, to experience the effect of our causative and 
innocent 
> > > thought as a created being, to enter into the world of our own 
> > > making. If the consciousness *believes* the particle-
experience, 
> > or 
> > > is caught in a given belief, it identifies with the 
concreteness 
> > of 
> > > the effect and forgets the subtle simplicity of its own cause; 
it 
> > > finds the bindu to be binding, and experiences the ignorance of 
> > the 
> > > particle, or more accurately the particle's ignorance of the 
> > freedom 
> > > of ourself, of That-Self. 
> > > 
> > > When we remember "Oh, yes, this particle-experience is not me; 
it 
> > is 
> > > only one infinitesimal particle in the emptiful, Indefinable, 
> > > Ungraspable That-Self," then Brahman remembers itself, and acts 
> as 
> > > the "Cosmic Consciousness" of the particle -- and so on, as 
> > described 
> > > earlier :-)
> 
> "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote:
> > >
> > Hi Rory- yeah, but the diff in Brahman is that consciousness 
> > concentrates into the particle, but doesn't really collapse into 
it-
>  
> > in my experience, it remains 'springy' so that the concentration 
> > within the particle even feels temporary and playful- same with 
any 
> > focus during thought or activity. So the senses themselves are 
> > harnessed by Brahman, if we can say such a thing. So the senses 
and 
> > the overall experience is so much more intense, and yet, it is 
all 
> > ephemeral, like clouds or sunlight.:-)
> 
> Right, once free, always free; we are no longer fully identifying 
> with the particle, or with ourselves as effect. And yes, the senses 
> *are* harnessed by Brahman. Experience, the Universe, is now bound 
> and surrounded by us, instead of vice-versa. I was just trying to 
> describe the mechanics of how Brahman supports ignorance as well as 
> enlightenment, or how we constantly recapitulate incarnation into 
> spacetime and transcendence through manifesting and enlightening 
our 
> particles *lol*
 
This is why I say, "as Brahman I am the Cosmic Consciousness of my 
particle(s)," instead of "I am in C.C.," and "as Krishna/Karttikeya I 
am the God Consciousness of my particle(s)," instead of "I am in 
G.C.," and so on -- I am not in ignorance or C.C. or G.C. or 
whatever; my particles may temporarily believe they are. The states 
of consciousness are in Us, we are not fully contained in any of 
them :-)

*L*L*L*


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