On Aug 28, 2007, at 10:56 PM, billy jim wrote:

Vaj, for you this is shameless speculation.

Well, it's not entirely speculation BJ, it's also insight from friends who've gone thru the whole Yogananda system and then were initiated into Taoist alchemy.

I don't mean to be mean but you are better at speculating when you know at least something about the topic - rather than here where you know only what someone wrote. There are different levels of technical complexity in Lahiri Mahasaya's kriya-yoga, not just what you can read in Tantra magazine. Kriya-yoga is actually a Vaishnava tantric yoga using different mahamantras of Hari in an internal sacrifice (antaryaga). And that is just one level only. Taoist microscopic circuit functions in adjunct nadi-s, not sushumna, chintrini, etc.

Not true, they just don't call it "sushumna" or "avadhuti".

Tibetans use a microsopic type of process to prepare mediums for shamanic pocession by dharma-protectors. For the real Kriyavani-s, much of what they learn is oral transmission only with privacy samaya-s. You should be able to understand and honor this.

Nonetheless, a good bit of the kriya info has leaked. I maintain my own tsa-lung samayas, so of course I understand.

I only know a little bit anyway but still cannot aid your speculation in this case.

See the above. It does appear, based on another friend who decided to be initiated into kriya a couple of years ago, that the higher levels of practice were not taught by SRF but have more recently been taught by others in another lineage. This has caused some controversy between the rival factions. I also purchased an old used book which was said to be Mahasaya's personal revelations and these seem to contain some kriyas that he revealed, so there also is some new innovation in the line, but again, it is my understanding these are not part of the SRF teachings.

Go see Swami Prajanananda and receive initiation if you want to know enough to make one of your famous judgements ... i.e. it is just "only like such and such" or "my Grandmother gave a more powerfull diksha in her kitchen while making peach cobbler, quoting Issac of Nineveh and drinking Johnny Walker Black".


Thanks, but I'm not interested to be perfectly honest, although I'm sure many who do will derive some benefit and I wish them the best.

My previous comment referred to Yogananda's teaching and not that of other offshoots.

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