--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > You appear to have a set of assumptions you are making and I > > have no > > > > idea what those are, which I am then accused of obscuring. Very > > > > strange. Anyway, good luck?:-) > > > > > > No assumptions, Jim. Very specific items. > > > > > > Either you have a convenient ability to forget what I wrote to you > > or > > > you're just being dishonest. > > > > Not dishonest, just busy with life. Thanks for the summary.:-) > > > > Below is what I wrote to you. I've > > > summarized it below that: > > > > > <snip> Just to make it more specific and simple: > > > > > > Banning initiations in Great Britain > > > > No problem with this. He began the Movement, and as its "CEO" he can > > do what he likes.:-) > > > > > > Closing TM Centers > > > > Same as above.:-) > > > > > > Promoting and abandoning bizarre costly projects > > > > Same as above.:-) > > > > > > The King Tony stuff > > > > I assume you mean the way he treats Tony Nader, and the position he > > holds in the Movement. > > Same as above.:-) > > > > > > Pitches for mega amounts of cash > > > > Same as above.:-) > > > > > > The disappearance of millions of those dollars after he gets them > > > > > I have stopped contributing any money to the TMO, except for $50 for > > the pundit program in Iowa. I have no idea where the money goes. As > > I've mentioned before, the Movement makes a big deal of being rich, > > though there is always an air of shabbiness around it. > > > > Yes, the Movement has changed, and Maharishi has changed what he has > > said about the direction of it, and his intentions for it. This is > > decidedly different from the way all of the major religions operate, > > because with dogma we get certainty. And with dogma it is easy to > > keep saying the same things over and over again, as if they mean > > something. People like that. Except that it doesn't lead to > > enlightenment. Only a path that is dynamic, breaks boundaries, and > > is headed by a supremely enlightened teacher has a hope of leading > > its followers to a result of supreme glory, fulfillment and the ever > > changing, ever fulfilling Reality of Brahman, and that path is > > Maharishi's path for us. As the bumper sticker says, "lead, follow, > > or get out of the way". > > > > Thank you for asking my opinion of these things. Sorry it took so > > long to get back to the meat of the issues-- my bad. Jai Guru Dev. > > Om Shiva.:-) > > Your words, Jim, in response to almost everything on the abbreviated > list I provided: > > "No problem with this. He began the Movement, and as its "CEO" he can > do what he likes." > > You've set Maharishi at a level of a corporate CEO instead of a > spiritual icon. I would tend to agree with that assessment of him > however, and further suggest that that indicates that he isn't much > beyond your average CEO in standards or ethics. > > I find it interesting that the only thing that seemed to get your > attention in the short list I provided was the disposition of the > missing million$ - even though in the thread I extensively elaborated > on the other items on that list. > > That certainly reveals your position on Maharishi as a teacher and as > a spiritual icon. It reveals that you are indifferent to whether he > has any particular standards or not. > > Guru Dev himself, as a young boy, had very rigid standards for > whomever was to become his teacher. And Guru Dev himself exemplified > the highest standards of spiritual ethics. > > What's a bummer to me is that TMers like you seem to think that 'all > is well' WITHOUT any of those standards. And people like Jerry ask > questions like, "Do you know any billionaires?" as if cash is the > 'great answer' in lieu of Paramatman. > > Something's rotten in Denmark in my view and the population refuses to > notice it, even when it's clearly pointed out. I've experienced that > many of those people like it that way however, and will and have > overtly, even viciously, attempted to eliminate any effort to make it > any different.
So you don't think that the "standards" you are reffering to are different in different states of consciousness ? Look around, don't people arund you have different standards, even within your family ? And please stop these absurd referances to Guru Dev; you know nothing about the man. In fact you seem to know very little about a lot of things. But jugdmental, yes you are.
