We have been supporting the suggestions from bootstrap 
(http://getbootstrap.com/2.3.2/scaffolding.html#responsive).  Our clients have 
been very happy with the results.  Perhaps we should start convincing our 
clients to move away from 960px support and just support 1200px only for 
desktop/tablet, but the downside is that most of our clients are hospitals and 
internally the number of computers that only support 960px is astonishing 
(pretty much every hospital I've worked with has this problem).  It's getting 
better, but it's a slow process.  Too bad form configs in FarCry don't allow 
arrays or this wouldn't be an issue and we could add them as needed (and you 
wouldn't have to hard-code these in).

Regarding a split-button, that's exactly what I was thinking.  I'm not sure I 
like it visually, but space is limited so it might be the best option if you 
added orientation support.  Unless someone else can think of a better way to 
offer it (like ipadseek.com uses a rotate button.  I like that idea).

Here's a thought, in the config maybe add orientation values for both devices 
as optional fields.  If the developer doesn't want to offer it, leave it blank 
(or use a show/hide disable checkbox in the config to disable it).  At least 
it's a simple workaround and not everyone has to use it (and you can disable 
them by default in the offered skeleton/installer).  But for those clients who 
absolutely need it (and I'm sure there are plenty of use-cases that we're not 
thinking of - I know I've seen many eCommerce solutions who use different 
orientation layouts) it will be natively supported as a webtop preview option.

Also, I don't know about you, but I was planning to use these config values 
possibly in some conditional code in a webskin or two (not sure where yet, but 
it's nice to know I'll have these handy if needed for conditional logic).

--
Jeff Coughlin


On Oct 30, 2013, at 1:33 AM, Justin Carter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Jeff! I'm not sure yet about adding orientations. Even just adding 
> another button would cause a (small) problem because the mobile preview isn't 
> wide enough to support an extra button (need to put it into a split button), 
> hehe :) But I think with responsive designs we generally find the landscape 
> iPad view to be the same as the Desktop view (i.e. anything larger than 960 
> pixels wide), and the line is made blurrier when most Android tablets are 
> 1280+ pixels wide in landscape mode, so I'd be inclined to tell clients "Just 
> use Desktop, it's the same".
> 
> I considered going the whole hog and showing the previews inside a device 
> skin, ala http://ipadpeek.com/, but it's only a rough guide and it can't 
> really be considered a substitute for actual device testing. It does look 
> very pretty though!
> 
> cheers,
> Justin
> 
> 
> cheers,
> Justin
> 
> --
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> http://twitter.com/justincarter
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Jeff Coughlin <[email protected]> wrote:
> configDevice.cfc is definitely a nice touch (thanks).  Any chance we can 
> support custom widths for both portrait and landscape on both tablet and 
> mobile devices?
> 
> Every responsive site I've been working on for the past couple years has been 
> doing multiple widths based on orientation (which of course is just simple 
> html5 conditional width detection).  So far my clients have only cared about 
> tablet landscape and portrait, and for phone/mobile they've only cared about 
> portrait.  But I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
> 
> --
> Jeff Coughlin
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Justin Carter <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> The quick preview feature I mentioned in the blog post is also now supported 
>> on ft:objectadmin grids, it looks great and the device widths are now 
>> configurable using a new config :)
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Justin
> 
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