Simson, Thanks so much for the helpful information. Could you be more specific how you use File Vault in conjunction with a bootable backup?
"The backup is accessible if you boot from a backup drive; you just need to mount it and enter your FV password." I assume you meant that FV is accessible if you boot from a background drive, correct? In other words, if I run FV on my main computer, and if I create a bootable clone of the main computer on an external drive, then I can boot that clone using any other mac, and I would be able to access the data in FV the same way I would as if it were on my main computer. Correct? "You can also create an encrypted image on your external bootable drive using Disk Utility." I am not sure what you mean by this. If FV has already encrypted the contents of my User Folder, then why would I need to encrypt anything else? Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated. On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:00 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Send FDE mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.xml-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/fde > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of FDE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Traveler's User Case: Backup vs. Security? (Carta Diem) > 2. Re: Traveler's User Case: Backup vs. Security? (Simson Garfinkel) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:58:08 -0700 > From: "Carta Diem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [FDE] Traveler's User Case: Backup vs. Security? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > I've been doing a lot of traveling, and I've been looking for a storage > solution that suits my needs. I don't seem to be able to find an ideal > solution, and I don't think I'm in the minority ? although I could be > wrong. > > Here is what I need: > > I travel with a notebook computer. > That is also my main computer. > Everything on it is critical. > Everything on it needs to be secure. > If the notebook fails for any reason, I need immediate, secure access to > that information. > > Luckily, I use a Macbook Pro, so I can create a bootable clone on an > external 2.5" drive that I can boot any Mac from, wherever I may be. All I > need to do is carry a small 2.5" firewire drive with me. > > The problems are: > (1) The MacBook Pro is not really secure. I don't use FileVault (their > internal encryption solution), even though it elegantly only encrypts the > contents of my Home folder, because it creates a separate disk image that > could become corrupt during backup and that, apparently, you cannot access > from a backup drive. > > (2) The external bootable drive has no security at all. None. So although > it is bootable from any Mac (and I would have to authenticate at boot, > using > any Mac), to my knowledge it is still completely readable from any PC or > Mac, should I simply connect it using a firewire or USB. That is > unacceptable. > > Am I missing something? Do you guys have a solution in the works? It would > seem to me that many travelers have the same needs as me, but maybe in the > corporate world they use thin clients or don't travel around with critical > information. (And the truth is, I'm not carrying any state secrets. I just > don't want my personal information to fall into anyone's hands, full stop!) > > Thanks in advance... > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.xml-dev.com/pipermail/fde/attachments/20080513/e3191657/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:13:55 -0700 > From: Simson Garfinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [FDE] Traveler's User Case: Backup vs. Security? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > I travel with a MacBook Pro using FileValut. FV is great. The backup > is accessible if you boot from a backup drive; you just need to mount > it and enter your FV password. Normally that is the same as your login > password. > > You can also create an encrypted image on your external bootable drive > using Disk Utility. > > > > On May 13, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Carta Diem wrote: > > > I've been doing a lot of traveling, and I've been looking for a > > storage solution that suits my needs. I don't seem to be able to > > find an ideal solution, and I don't think I'm in the minority ? > > although I could be wrong. > > > > Here is what I need: > > > > I travel with a notebook computer. > > That is also my main computer. > > Everything on it is critical. > > Everything on it needs to be secure. > > If the notebook fails for any reason, I need immediate, secure > > access to that information. > > > > Luckily, I use a Macbook Pro, so I can create a bootable clone on an > > external 2.5" drive that I can boot any Mac from, wherever I may > > be. All I need to do is carry a small 2.5" firewire drive with me. > > > > The problems are: > > (1) The MacBook Pro is not really secure. I don't use FileVault > > (their internal encryption solution), even though it elegantly only > > encrypts the contents of my Home folder, because it creates a > > separate disk image that could become corrupt during backup and > > that, apparently, you cannot access from a backup drive. > > > > (2) The external bootable drive has no security at all. None. So > > although it is bootable from any Mac (and I would have to > > authenticate at boot, using any Mac), to my knowledge it is still > > completely readable from any PC or Mac, should I simply connect it > > using a firewire or USB. That is unacceptable. > > > > Am I missing something? Do you guys have a solution in the works? > > It would seem to me that many travelers have the same needs as me, > > but maybe in the corporate world they use thin clients or don't > > travel around with critical information. (And the truth is, I'm not > > carrying any state secrets. I just don't want my personal > > information to fall into anyone's hands, full stop!) > > > > Thanks in advance... > > _______________________________________________ > > FDE mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.xml-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/fde > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > FDE mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.xml-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/fde > > > End of FDE Digest, Vol 20, Issue 10 > *********************************** >
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