Máirín Duffy escreveu: > Hi Rodrigo, > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira <rodrigopad...@projetofedora.org> >> To: Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list@redhat.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 3:15:47 PM >> Subject: Re: Wallpaper > >> The wallpaper without a symbol is very simple! > > Who says a default wallpaper needs to be complicated? The more complex a > default wallpaper, the harder it is to see the items on your desktop. This is > not a good thing and we receive complaints *regulary* when a wallpaper is > perceived to be too complicated/busy for discerning items on the desktop. >> How the group take this decisions ?
Not complicated, but with a logo or symbol about the name/release. I think a blue screen with some effects isn't the best wallpaper for Fedora 11. Fedora 10 had a sun Fedora 9 waves Fedora 8 transition effect during the day Fedora 7 balloons ..... > In general, how this group handles a decision (and how I think any group > would) depends at what level the decision is and the context around the > decision. This particular problem needed to be addressed (in short-order to > say the least) so I made a call on the list. No one opposed it and several > people supported it. If you are curious read back through the list archives. >> I think will be better to use the vote system for next releases, to get >> feedback from all Ambassadors and contributors. >> >> Can we open this decision process ? > > I think voting on every bug and issue that comes up (especially in something > as subjective as artwork where user preferences vary widely) is a really bad > idea for ANY project. It's supremely inefficient - how can you accomplish > anything when you are constantly needing to arrange and manage voting > processes? Who gets to vote on the items that get to be on the ballot? Design > itself is essentially a continual process of decision-making. If we had a > vote on every single decision made for every design this team produced for > Fedora, it might take us 10 years to do the artwork for a release and I don't > feel I am exaggerating. > > This is an extremely open design team. We openly discuss our methods and our > decisions, and we make our source artwork available in open formats using > open licenses so anyone who wants to participate, extend, or build on our > work can easily. If you been participating in the list when we received > complaints on this particular issue and when we made the final call on how to > handle it, you could have spoken up just as anyone else could have. Even if > you were not paying attention to the list at the time, it doesn't mean the > issue wasn't discussed openly. > > I really want to see more folks participating in the artwork process - > creating mockups or alternatives or suggesting solutions to problems such as > this one (where the lion was too distracting for some users). So, if you > would like to have a say, please join us. Then the next time an issue like > this crops up, you'll more easily be able to take the opportunity to speak up > and discuss the issue. My sugestion isn't to "voting on every bug and issue that comes up", but voting on artwork options for every Fedora Release to take a direction (not a final decision), to have feedback from the people that spread and use Fedora around the world. I'm talking constantly with Maria Leandro, Jayme and more recently Samuele and nobody knew about the changes and decisions taked about the wallpaper/Lion. If this process is open, clear and etc why these members, member of this list don't knew about this decision ? For me this decision impacts all users/contributors/ambassadors, but the decision isn't clear and isn't open! Samule saved us again, this time from a Windows XP Like wallpaper, but, unfortunately the beautiful wallpaper was ripped! Our artwork team is great and is doing a GREAT JOB, but, we need to improve the decision process. -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
