A book is probably not the best example for what I was trying to say with
that point.

>From one point of view I can see that there is an inherent order
relationship between pages directly - for instance by virtue of text at the
bottom of one page continuing at the top of the next.

However I think it still could be useful to model the "context" of that
nextPage relationship. So in the example of a short story in a collection of
short stories, what is the next page after the last page in the story?  In
the context of the collection it's the first page of the next story, in the
context of the story, there isn't one.  In this case one could model this by
ordering relationships from the pages to the story, and by ordering
relationships from the story to the collection I guess.

I accept there's also another context outside of "next page in the book" and
"next page in the story" - just "next page".

Maybe a better example would be a presentation composed of a number of
slides.  After creating the first version, I create another version with the
slides unchanged but in a different order.  In this case I think there's a
good argument for modelling order as the order of the relationships from the
slides to the version rather than treating order as a property of the
individual slides.

Regards
Steve


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 19 May 2010 16:31
> To: Fedora Users
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-commons-users] Object Order Using RDF
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> I'm not sure I agree with this. Pages containing a text have 
> an inherent order without the context of a larger text from 
> which they are drawn. E.g. a short story excerpted from a 
> collection: even without repackaging it as an independent 
> resource, treating it simply as a set of pages, it has a 
> definite order, without which it has considerably reduced utility.
> 
> ---
> A. Soroka
> Digital Research and Scholarship R & D
> the University of Virginia Library
> 
> 
> 
> On May 19, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Steve Bayliss wrote:
> 
> > Sequence can be thought of as a property of the 
> relationship between the resource and collection (page and 
> book) rather than a property of the resource itself.  That is 
> to say that one page follows another only by virtue of the 
> pages being in the book - having a relationship to the book.  
> There could be cases where a resource was in different 
> collections and you wanted to express resource sequence 
> differently in different collections - so the sequence is 
> strictly a property of the relationship itself rather than 
> the resource.
> 
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