Hi Scott,

Actually FeSL AuthN and AuthZ are now separate options at
install-time, so enabling one shouldn't force you to use the other. If
you find that's happening, it's a bug that needs to be
addressed...it's certainly not intentional. But the first release we
did with FeSL included did force them to both either be on or off, so
that may be a source of confusion if you're using an older version.

Also, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but Adam Soroka has been
putting together a non-FeSL servlet filter that allows Shib
integration. I believe he's planning on having something available for
others to check out sometime after the 3.5 release.

- Chris

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Scott Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
> The topic of using Shibboleth for authentication and XACML for authorization 
> has heated up again in our organization.
>
> Here is our ideal scenario:
>
> * Authentication with Shibboleth, Shibboleth attributes made available for 
> use in Fedora XACML policies: made possible by servlet filters developed at 
> other institutions
>
> * XACML policies stored as Fedora objects, inheritable rules, indexed in the 
> resource index, cached:  made possible by FeSL
>
> However, it appears that if FeSL is enabled (necessary to get the new and 
> improved version of the XACML implementation), then FeSL JAAS is also 
> enabled, and so the Shibboleth authentication piece will be disabled or 
> bypassed (right?).
>
> We'd like to have our cake and eat it, too, ideally without having to wrestle 
> with developing a JAAS Shibboleth plugin.  Is there a way to separate FeSL 
> authentication from FeSL authorization, enable the latter, but not the 
> former? Thoughts?
>
> Some background reading:
>
> https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/FCREPO-577
> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FCR30/Fedora+Security+Layer+%28FeSL%29
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> -- Scott
>
>
>
>
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