Am Freitag, 05 Juni 2009 12:21:01 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
KF> 17:28:03 <notting> so, we already have -5 to the exception for zsync
KF> 17:28:28 <nirik> #agreed No exception for zsync.

Of course shipping internals is very very evil and I really understand the 
problems behind them. 

I'm a pessimist and I ask myself: 
"What is the consequence, if rsync-upstream is unwilling to drop shipping of 
forked zlib as internal dependency?" 
a) drop rsync from fedora?
b) build rsync against system and lose compatibility to rsync original?
c) call the dependency rsync-zlib or whatever?

The zsync difficulty is that zsync tries to be compatible to rsync and needs a 
forked zlib, like rsync. It's on the dice, that the zlib-internal is bound with 
the zlib of rsync. I beg, again, for the exception of zsync, because the 
problem wouldn't be worsened.
It's just a new child of sorrow, sitting in the front of the closed door and 
knows his brother with the same misfeature is in.
If rsync-upstream is unwilling to drop internal zlib, I believe nothing will 
happened, because rsync is a centerpiece of every distribution and fedora can't 
afford drop this package or can't afford to be incompatible to other 
distributions and rsync itself. And renaming the zlib for this project will 
bring a flood of *-zlib and that can not be the meaning of it all.

I think this is an important question. I don't want to bring trouble upon 
fedora project or rsync or anybody else. Additionally, I believe that there are 
a few applications in fedora which are using shipped internals, too.
As I said it before, I don't want to start trouble, but it should be very 
helpful to find them and collect them in a seperate tracker. I created one with 
the bugnumber #504497 to get an overview, about packages/applications with 
duplicated libs. Please help to find them. Perhaps we can be succeed in 
conversion of upstream, to help all for a better cooperation and better 
software. Thank you!
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Simon Wesp

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