Gene Heskett wrote:

[snip]

Maybe the question we should be asking is: Can we do this? We don't
have the number of people that Debian Security has on supporting old
releases.. and because we have fallen so far behind with everything..
can we dig ourselves out.. or do we need to completely reboot the
whole thing (new people, new goals, new name) with the new people
really knowing that

A) we arent going to get much help from 3rd party vendors
B) we arent going to get much help from the community


I'd comment that for this fedora user at least, the security etc stuffs should be extended at least to the point where we each of us, has a system, old though it may be in FC years, that works and does everything WE want it to do.

Hi, Gene. I haven't been around here for a while. Nice to see something
from you.

That's my situation, too. But I don't think that the FC project is
really set up for that. I use FC2, and when I finally bite the bullet
and feel it imperative to "upgrade" it won't be to FCx. That isn't
what FC is about, it seems. For the reason you give, it doesn't really
suit my needs.

Throwing us "to the wolves" doesn't make me want to format and update at anywhere near the release cycle for FC. My email archive alone goes back into 1998 here. Yes, there are backups, and I do them rather religiously

Umm, FC didn't exist in 1998.

Anyway, FC is really for tinkerers, not for people who want a distro
that "just works". I installed it because I was asked to do so by
a company which hired me for a contract. For my *own* needs, Debian
would have been better. Much slower release cycle. Fewer defects.

But I'm not about to do this every 6 months as planned by the FC people, I

Well, that's what FC *is*. I have several friends who have started
using Linux over the last few years, and we are all going through
culture shock at what is called QA in the "Linux World". FC, even in
Linux terms, is a "use at your own risk" kind of distro. Not that
care isn't taken, but stuff is gonna break when a new release comes
out.

If you don't want installing the OS to be a hobby, perhaps you
should consider a different distro. I know I am.

Mike
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