Rahul Sundaram wrote:


That's a matter of opinion. It may matter to you why your 3rd party application doesn't run. It matters to me whether it runs or not.

It is not a matter of opinion. You claimed that if Fedora shipped official Java, then the problems would disappear for third party applications.

I don't think that's exactly what I said.

Oh, sure. Feel free to look up the archives.

Different conversation, I guess. Was that back when fedora was shipping something that not only wasn't a version that would run 3rd party apps but it also wouldn't pass any conformance tests? And you still defended the product?

OpenNMS would be a good test.

.. which works fine.

http://yum.opennms.org/
http://blogs.opennms.org/?p=223

Errr, that blog says it builds... Is it your/fedora's policy that if something builds you should ship it? The fedora versions that do work work because they require this:
http://yum.opennms.org/unstable/common/jdk/i386/jdk-1_5_0_15-linux-i586.rpm

Run the latest release and if you find a actual problem, file a bug report. Theoretical discussions are just wasting time.

Repeating other people's mistakes is what wastes time. Here's what one of their developers said more recently: http://n2.nabble.com/Broken-Startup-on-Fedora-9-td640408.html#a640628

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