Hi Rick,

Thanks for the update.

Just being curious, what exactly did you patch in InstallerImpl (and
ResolverImpl) ?

Regards
Felix

On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

FW: Leveraging OBR's generic dependency mechanismHi Felix,

Felix Meschberger wrote on 2/22/2007:

>Hi,

>> Apparently, there is only a single queueHandler
>> thread which handles the events.  I must be missing something.

> The thread is started at the end of the AssemblyManager.start method,
> which
> first gathers existing bundles to jump start the Assembly Manager with
> simulated events for them. The AssemblyManager.start method itself is
> called
> from AssemblyActivator (the BundleActivator) start method...

>> My question is how does the installer handle direct and
>> indirect dependencies if those dependencies are also required to be
>> updated?

> Ok. This depends. If the dependencies are included with the assembly,
> there
> lifecycle is controlled through the Assembly Bundle. If the dependencies
> are
> not included in the assembly, and an OBR is used to install the bundles,
> the
> dependencies will be resolved by the OBR and just started by the
> AssemblyManager (these are the requiredResources of the Resolver). They
> are
> not further managed by the AssemblyManager, they are just there.

> If the dependencies not managed by the AssemblyManage happen to require
an
> update due to updated requirements of managed bundles, these updates may
> take place as a "side effect" of OBR bundle resolution.

> So for complete management, it might be a good idea to include all
> dependencies as far as possible in the Assembly. Again: This is a
> management
> task based on a management decision outside of the framework and not a
> technically required task !

> Regards
> Felix

I should have responded much earlier, but instead I would just like to
provide you with a quick update.  Apparently, our automated update process
using OBR seems to be working.  Thanks to your examples and by following
Richard's original suggestion consisting of 4 steps,  I was able to build
a
customized version of InstallerImpl and ResolverImpl.  The whole process
is
triggered when a local repository is detected.  The approach I have taken
was to identify updatable bundles (those that have an older version) from
the installable bundles (those that are entirely new) up front.  By
matching
capabilities and requirements, I was then able to build a list of
resources
that could be installed, lining them up in a stack, to ensure that the
required dependencies pulled in were installed first.  So far the update
seems to work provided that there were no cyclical dependencies which in
our
case, we took the effort to avoid.  Of course, this doesn't sound so ideal
but it's currently the situation which I know will improve over time as
the
benefits of a service architecture are fully realized.

One issue I encountered was with the LocalRepositoryImpl.  I may have it
wrong but apparently its m_local variable points to the .felix cache
instead
of the actual "physical" repository.  To resolve this issue, I had to
create
a "map" of the repository so that resources can be discovered and
eventually
the actual bundles are installed.  I also found that the getURL method of
the resource returns null but that was overcome with this workaround.
Although some more work remains to be completed, overall the direction
looks
okay.

And to those who will be at EclipseCon next week, I hope to meet up with
you
at the conference!

Best regards.
Rick



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