On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 20:33 -0800, Erick Tryzelaar wrote:

> By excellent, I meant in comparison to sourceforge :) Either way though, 
> google groups also works as a mailing list, so you'd still get your 
> buffering. Plus, searching mail via google groups is amazingly fast.

Except I can't gain access to my gmail account: google sucks
pretty badly with many of their services.

I find most of this stuff pretty lame and non-professional.

There are some exceptions, like Wikipedia, which is awesome
from a users viewpoint (IMHO), and Google Search .. which
varies quite a bit in quality .. but, hey what else is there?

But the primary resources of interest are really:

(a) the Felix website

(b) the code repository (svn/tarball stuff)

The website surely needs a lot of work. 'nuf said there :)

Now, in my opinion, the structure of the current code
base is a serious impediment to cooperation.

We have a sophisticated a highly integrated build system,
including interscript based modules. It's all cool ..
if you're me on a good day, or Erick on a weekend.

But if you're a lurker wishing to contribute .. perhaps
edit one paragraph of doco, or add one library routine,
or tweak some part of the compiler .. ??

* RF found the format invasive enough to resist commiting
his code for over 6 months.

* I find the task of adding new test cases fairly daunting

But hey .. i WROTE interscript. And i've used it for
about 15 years (since Python 1.5.2).

OTOH I cringe when I think of 'de-interscripting' the system,
let along somehow 'devolving' the build system.

The fact is, the combination is pretty awesome: we do manage
to generate tools, docs, and run tests on several platforms
with a single code base .. every time I think of destructuring
I realise what would be lost.

So .. IMHO the problem is NOT the language. OK, Jacques mightn't
like the C++ syntax much .. but he might live with it. Ditto for
others .. IF they could easily get their hands dirty and just fix
things the way they wanted.

So I'm turning around Erick's love of web for chatting to another
view: a Felix module is a file accessed by a URL.

No separate docs (but CSS, XSLT, or other stuff are cool tools
to help interpret it!)

So roughly: Felix code is basically a source code wiki.
That way everyone can just edit code via the web.

Oh, and the application to do this .. is a cool project
to do in Felix!

Ppl we need something radical! Like the paper clip,
spreadsheet, blog, wiki, etc ..



-- 
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net

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