On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 11:24 -0400, Chris King wrote:
> On 4/26/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Given an intended market of C++ programmers,
> 
> I don't really see Felix's target being "C++ programmers" per se, but
> more so "people who would really rather program in some other language
> but need the speed / libraries / etc. that C++ offers".  At least,
> that's why I'm interested in it, having never written a line of C++
> (that wasn't just C) in my life.  For people like me the current
> tutorial is just fine (in that it provides a good "translation"
> reference from other similar languages).

Yes, but actually you're "interested" but not actually using it.
Now that's fine .. but we do need people actually using it in
a production environment. Felix has some potential for academia,
especially science: replacing Fortran would be cool.

IMHO many numerical people simply aren't convinced about C++:
it is clearly better than Fortran .. but not good enough to
warrant the risk .. but here a top class library and type system
support for numerical stuff would be very persuasive, IMHO.

> However I agree it would be beneficial to have a step-by-step mixed C
> / Felix tutorial, say writing a small program that interfaces with a
> common library such as zlib or ncurses in an ad-hoc way, to show how
> easy it is to bind to C functions.  At the same time it should
> showcase the key features of Felix.  Some ideas:
> 
> * Extract http:// links and e-mail addresses from gzipped HTML files.
> At the least this would showcase regexp matching and binding to zlib,
> and could even use fthreads to interact with zlib.

yeah, but then you need zlib .. hmm .. FFAU licence .. cool!

> * Interactive file browser (show a list of files, allow the user to
> select one, maybe show a preview).  Would showcase binding with
> ncurses and could probably also introduce some Felix data structures.

ncurses not on Windows .. :)

Production apps are too big for tutorials. We have bindings
for SDL, OpenGL, GMP, etc in the system already .. all you
have to do is look at them.

-- 
John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net>
Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net

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