I know the problem is that I hardly see them, and I can't be there all
the time as the gate closes at night - and I can't just set a trap and
leave it over night because dogs will be there, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Off topic - rescuing feral

Is there a group that can help you there?  Not sure where you're 
located.  But someone needs to trap them and get them out of there... 
Sounds like a dog problem too!

Gloria

I know - I am in the process of trying to trap Ginger's mom - I have 
been feeding her and other ferals who are left there behind my 
company's back (I am not allowed to feed them any more, but I am 
anyway, if they find out, I could be fired). Recently, I have seen 
many vicious dogs roaming around (pit bull, rotwiler, and chows,,) in 
the parking lot where I feed Ginger's mom and other kitties.  I am so 
worried about them as these dogs pack and hunt and they are very 
dangerous - I don't even know if Ginger's mom and others are safe - 
they can hardly come eat the food anymore - besides I think someone 
at work must have found the food plates that I put out as there were 
gone today.  I am freaking out because I could be fired -  I don't 
know what to do!  I just want to get them out of there - I should 
have done so long time ago!

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara 
stickler
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Tip is Gone-Kathy

Oh absolutely...uhm...either that or he has already reincarnated into 
an orange tabby with a big head that as recently shown up at my 
parent's house.  Same body shape...just different color!  While this 
one doesn't hiss, he won't allow himself to be touched or caught yet 
either, yet he lays in Hisspuff's spot.  My mom's freakin' 
out...she's afraid she'll become a crazy cat lady!  She can't help 
but feed them...but she doesn't even really like cats and certainly 
doesn't want to have to think about it outside in the cold and 
wet...esp. when it refuses to come in, but lays infront of the 
laundry room window shivering.  Everytime we rent a trap to catch 
him....he's a no show.  So she is just going to keep feeding him in 
the hopes that he'll come around like the other two, Tom & Jerry, 
that she refuses to admit are hers, but they have trained Mom & Dad 
to let them in the house at will....they even have their own beds 
downstairs....For that matter, Mom's dog used to HATE cats...Jerry 
took two and a half years, but won her over too!

What idiot human ever coined the phrase "dumb animals"?

Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Every feral cat story I hear, I just can't stop crying - there is a 
book called "Livings in shadows"  - it's a book about how to take 
care of feral cats - the title itself makes me cry because it 
represents so much of how their life is - I had a feral who used to 
hisses and growls as she ate - I just love my ferals -

I am sure that your big puffy head boy is in heaven -

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara 
stickler
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Tip is Gone-Kathy

We had a feral for about 3 years that we fed...a burmese mix, all 
black, big puffy head with a small body and stubby legs.  Everytime 
he saw us he'd hiss....so of course we named him Hisspuff.  After 
about a year we could pet him while he ate, but he'd still hiss when 
he first saw us.  We tried to get him to come into the house...but he 
never would, just prefered the straw we put out for him in the bushes 
out front.  He got sick, nose stuffed up and eyes running - but 
wouldn't ever let us catch him.  He showed up at the back of the 
house one day...just to say goodbye...again we tried to catch him, 
but he wouldn't have it and went off to die...but he'll ALWAYS be one 
of my favorites!

Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I know what you mean, some of my feral hisses and spits at me 
whenever I am near them - but I still love them as much if you know 
what I mean - There is this poem some one of the FIP list sent to the 
other list member a long time ago when they lost their love one - and 
I found it very soothing and am trying to find it so that I can share 
with this list member -

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Tip is Gone - Kathy

Thanks Kathy, Seeing them all again will be wonderful. Like you I 
have had pets of all kinds and I loved them all (even some that were 
not so lovable.)It makes it easier knowing that they will be there 
for me when it is my turn to go.

Love, Sheila

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