For Michelle UK: toilet training help needed for adult cats + enzyme Q

MacKenzie, Kerry N. Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:29:42 -0800

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>>>Anti-Icky Poo and Liqui-Zyme are both excellent. <<<<

A thought---these brand names won't be available in UK---Michelle--do you happen to know of a UK brand that works really well?

Or, does anyone know the effective ingredient to look for on the packaging? Hopefully the ingred names are the same in both countries.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: toilet training help needed for adult cats

Thanks SO much Barb. This is perfect! The person sounds like a real genuine cat person, so I feel sure that she will follow your instructions. (As we know, a lot of folks would just think, "I don't think so", and take the cats off to the nearest shelter/pound.)

I'm going to push Ag to put the whole Q & A in her column (as well as responding to the reader directly which she always does)---maybe it will save some cats' lives. (Isn't this the number one reason cats end up getting euthanized?)

What's "nbsp" by the way?!

Kerry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: toilet training help needed for adult cats

First off, the only thing that works on the odor is a liquid enzyme cleaner. Anti-Icky Poo and Liqui-Zyme are both excellent. The area in question must also be completely saturated with the cleaner in order for it to work properly.

If at all possible, you should confine them to a smaller space until they learn about the boxes and have them out of that space only when being supervised. Put litter boxes in their favorite spot(s) and use some old rags/towels instead of litter, since they don't seem to connect litter to potty. When they do their business in the box, praise them and give them a treat. Once they get accustomed to using the box for their business, slowly start switching over to litter.

I'm doing something like this at the moment because Smoky has just gotten over his 2nd bout of interstitial cystitis and he thinks it's OK to tinkle anywhere.....&! nbsp;

"MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all
I just got this email from my sister -- she writes a column for the
London Times, does not have cats, and she just got this Q from one of
her readers -- my sister knows all about you wonderful guys so naturally
is counting on me to supply the answer! The reader/cat owner sounds a
real cat lover :>) so it would be great if she/the cats could find an
answer that was sure to work. Is there such a thing? If anyone has any
ideas that they think would work better than those the reader has tried
already (see below) please let me know. Thanks in advance! Kerry

Dear Aggie

We have taken in 4 (adult) rescue cats, who it seems were never properly
toilet trained. Although they have been with us for a few years now, we
don't seem to! be able to change their habits.

They have a favourite (big) patch of deep pile carpet which we try to
clean,
but it keeps on smelling - please, please...any ideas would be welcomed.

We have tried:

1) talking to the vets & researching whether they are stressed & whether
we
can re-train them
2) hiring a steam cleaner, but they could still smell the urine I
presume &
they re-fouled it almost immediately
3) we have had a local carpet cleaning firm in, still no joy

We are softie animal lovers & know that it is not their fault, but it is
really getting us down, so if you have any cleaning tips or contact
details
of a cat behaviourist, we would be very grateful.

If in the end we have to change the carpet, should we then seal or treat
the
planking underneath?

By the way, we live on the edge of Dartmoor & they have complete freedom
to
go out, but choose not to!! Little beasts!!
!
Any help or ideas will be gratefully appreciated,

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of veggiepugs
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:53 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Sigh...

Thank you everyone for your replies to my cries! lol. I was really
upset. I'm so upset that he's sick and doesn't feel
well, but won't take the pill. I tried explaining it to him, and told
him how sorry I was...he ran away a few times and
then when he was comfortable again he let me come back and pet and
cuddle with him and he purred. I talked it
over with him but I don't think he'll be receptive to the idea ever
again. lol. Are they more receptive to shots than
syringe? Forget the turkey juice, he wont even LOOK at the syringe much
less let it near him. In a panic at 915 I
called Petco (my LAST resort EVER) as one of the ! retailers listed for
pill pockets. This week is a rough week as far as
extra cash goes, I've had to stretch it a LONG ways. The site said "and
for only 4 or 5 dollars!" yea right, I walk into
Petco and THEY'RE selling them for 11 bucks for the bags sold for under
5 online! I yelped to the lady who helped
me find them "Holy crap! Eleven dollars! These are 4 bucks online!" I
walked out astounded and ran to look for them
elsewhere. I couldnt find them anywhere else, by the time I'd gone, it
was too late they were closed so i got some
soft cat treats thinking I could shove the pills into the treat (which I
was able to) but he turned his nose up at them.
Sigh. Jenn, i did try "sitting" on him, but again, as you said, there's
the problem with there being just me and no one
to help with the front legs. At least not every day. I only see my
boyfriend on weekends so the rest of the week would
be shot. :( I'll call the vet tomorrow and di! scuss other options. Maybe
I will have him boarded for treatment. I dunno.
I hate having animals at the vet even for just that. I'm such a baby. I
cried my eyes out when I had to leave Linus
overnight. Of course he was having surgery under anesthesia so I was a
MESS. If only I could describe his _expression_
and behavior when we went to pick him up. I'll never forget it. (As he
sits here with his head and front paws on my
lap my little puggy. I call him babyhead because his head is so little
and he looks like a baby pup. lol.) Gosh my
emails are really long. Does everyone wanna kill me yet? lol. Thanks so
much everyone. I was so distressed. I dont
want him to be sick anymore. I'm so worried and I hate stressing him
out. I cry easy when I get overwhelmed at
things like this so I was a little over the edge earlier. Anyhow,
tomorrow's a new day and I can speak with the vet.
Hugs,
Rebecca

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