At 11:51 AM 2/5/2007, you wrote:
We can and should only relay facts as we personally know them, and do our
best to do it privately if at all possible, If we have misgivings, it is our
duty to protect the animals, We all have different standards. My cats have
dirt to play in and bushes,,,and it is comfortable for the ferals to have
their seclusion, Someone else might not like it, They are litter boxes and
grass I need to clean,,,,The cats love it,,,Regardless, I have just seen to
many good rescues hurt my well meaning people imposing their own standards
on others,
We can email each other off list . and I do it frequently if I do not it is
suited to the group.
Kelly
www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
Hey, I understand. I can understand where both the person who had
volunteered to take Simms and Rude Ranch, are coming from. RR has a
business to protect for the sake of the animals under its care, and they can
only continue if the people who entrust the animals to them continue to help
pay for the cats care...I get that. And I understand this woman who agreed
to help me, doing so out of the goodness of her heart b/c of her love of
animals...I understand and respect that. As for the conditions on her farm
and the charges under her care, since they were not up to MY standards, as I
believe I would want to live, so I found another alternative for the charge
under my care.
While I believe that perhaps I should have alerted AC, I didn't because she
IS working with all these other rescue organizations. All these places,
people, who start with the best of intentions do good work. The level of
"good" is relative to each individual's personal reality.
IF what she had said was true about RR shifting cats onto her, which she
seemed very proud of- to be able to help...I felt it MIGHT help someone
reading about RR to understand that there may be a POSSIBILITY that a cat
placed with them, might not stay with them, and if sent away, might not wind
up in a place as nice as their's. I admitted in my e-mail that I had no
personal knowledge of the workings of Rude Ranch, only relayed my experience
with someone who claimed to...and because she knew them by name and seemed
joyed to help them & because several other rescue operations I had spoken to
recommended her to me, I had no reason to believe that she wasn't telling me
the truth.
But as saying even the least little thing bad about a place can cause harm,
so can saying a place is wonderful ....
My only intention with my original post was to caution. I know I have
dropped animals at "WONDERFUL" shelters in the past, places I personally
supported financially for years...then eventually volunteered there only to
learn awful things about the running of the organizations (again...NOT
referring to Rude Ranch, I've never been THERE)....but...If a place seems
TOO wonderful, its often too easy to reliquish the care of a beloved animal
to it and not feel any guilt. Whereas IF all the facts were researched,
perhaps a better place/person could be found if just given a little more
time and research.
I had/have no intention to villify people who care and are trying to
help...even when they've lost their way. EDUCATION to those trying to place
felv+ cats is the best security for the animals, whether education on the
disease itself, or on HOW to investigate anyone or place where one might
leave an animal who is trusting you to care for them.
I never said RR was bad, or absolutely did shift animals onto an overloaded
foster home, I just relayed what little information I personaly heard from
someone who claimed to have a good, working relationship with RR. So that
if anyone had seen them on Animal Planet they wouldn't automatically assume
them to be the "be-all-end-all" (which they may actually be-who knows) just
because they were on tv. Speaking as a rescuer myself, who is more than
willing to help others ...I prefer to do so when they've exhausted all other
avenues...and NOT be their first call...being too good at what you do, can
get you in WAY over your head.
T
TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
exactly..... it only takes one person with their own agenda to cause
irreparable harm.
we were once contacted by someone who wanted us to take her two FeLVs,
from quite a distance away. as FeLVs don't do really well on long
transports, we tried to work with her on more local options. every
place she went to, she found major fault with, yet every time we tried
to set up transport arrangements with her, she has one excuse after
another about why it wouldn't/couldn't work. i had many long emails
and phone calls with her, and finally, she just stopped responding.
about two months later, she started posting hissterical messages about
these same two cats on the lists. again, i wrote and reminded her that
we were willing to take them--on the lists, she wrote really nasty
letters about how i'd never responded to her before, and that if it
had been up to me, those cats would have been dead by now, then she
went on about how she wasn't going to send them to a place where the
cats lived in cages in tiny rooms all their lives--which was not at
all the case where we were--i'd sent her many photos of our
facilities..... when i reminded her, off list, of our phone calls and
emails, she went back on the lists, saying that i was harassing her
and that she was going to tell everyone to have nothing to do with our
sanctuary and that if she ever heard from me again she'd report me for
stalking.... i reported HER to all the lists she was posting on,
actually.....and considered sending her the bill for the long-distance
phone calls i'd made to her....
some people will never be satisfied, and sadly, some people really do
exist solely to make trouble for others.
MC
On 2/5/07, Kelly L wrote:
> I do not know personally of the place but be careful when saying
> something negative like that on line, You could really hurt someone
> trying to help.
> I have a small sanctuary and would never allow anyone in here with
> out an appointment, There are many many crazy people out there
> unfamiliar with what it takes to manage multitudes of cats...All it
> takes is for one cat to vomit in a corner and another boy baby to
> spray someones shoes.. Yup it happens. I know of two wonderful caring
> rescuers ( not hoarders) who lost al their cats when an novice cat
> person decided it was messy etc,,,,they called the authorities and as
> a result I imagine many cats lost their loving home and perhaps their
lives,
> for a person getting rid of cats for any reason, why do they expect
> others to be able to do what they themselves are willing to do,,I
> have both FIV and FELV....
> I do recommend that any time a cat is placed a home check is in
> order,,that is common sense.
> Kelly
> www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
>
>
>
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