Same thing with those awful plastic bags if the handles aren't cut.

Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote:
I had exactly the same problem but I did not realize what all the commotion was about until the poor birdie was dead. That was a long time ago. So sad!

"Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its
 Manifestation."


On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:58 AM, Marylyn wrote:

A word about fishing line: I had a bird use a piece in its nest. A baby bird got it wrapped around its leg and dangled from a two story window for a long time. I finally got the bird freed but it would not stay in the nest. I could not get the line from around its leg so, if it lived, the nylon line may have cut into the leg. The same thing can happen with cats + they can get it wrapped around their necks, eat it etc. It is extremely hard to see too.







If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis ----- Original Message ----- From: "dede hicken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: outdoor enclosures


Yeah, the mesh was great in Fl.  I even brought some
with me.  Guess what?  It doesn't work in NY...sigh.
We were told by a large cat sanctuary (Peace
Plantation) to use 1x2 galvanized welded rabbit wire.
He showed us what 2 winters did to the mesh.  They had
spent $6,500 on it and it bombed.  The stupid
manufacturer said "It's not for commercial use"  Well
duh, if it works, it works.  Zip ties don't work here
either.

It's very hard to describe what we've done now by
writing.  I can tell you that in Fl. we got a 10x10
enclosure from Ace Hardware and covered it using mesh
and zip ties.  Some folks use fish line.  You have to
adapt the door so they can't get through. a chain link
fence guy can do that for you.

We will be using Kittywalk to connect the 2 enclosures
we will have here.

Dede
--- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

I have what I call a "catiary" cause it looks like
an aviary. It was
built at the same time as my deck so it could be
incorporated into the
plan. It's between a wing of the deck & the house &
goes from ground
level to roof level of single story house.  The
floor is concrete for
cleaning - a lockable screen door goes to the yard &
the "walls" are 4"
PVC coated mesh that is exactly what BestFriends
uses in their outdoor
rooms. It's VERY strong & does not cut down on light
as does most of the
regular, weaker, tearable mesh screen.

Inside there are shelves at staggered heights for
sunning & romping.  I
scrounded a tall thick tree branch & a really
crookedy one that are
propped in one corner for climbing & scratching.
The roof is that
coorrugated plastic. I keep one or two litter boxes
out there.

The cats have access to the catiary from a cat door
from the screened
porch & access to the screened porch from a cat door
into the kitchen.
Works great. In cold weather they can go out there
without letting the
cold into the house.

I looked at enclosures on the web & found that
utterly boring. I think
the best ones are the ones that the people design
themselves. Y ou
.should be able to get a handyman to build it. The
man who built mine
along with the deck got a huge kick out of it. Said
he'd never had a
"cat room" on his resume before!

Pam

Jane Lyons wrote:
> I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
> but hopefully we can get the newness of this
diagnosis
> and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
> Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
> that works well. Again, I Googled the category and
there
> are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone
might have
> experience with a design or quality that works.
> I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young
life on
> her own because she can climb trees better than
squirrels and
> seems to know her way around the terrain. I need
an enclosure that
> will allow her some measure of freedom and
activity.
>
> I appreciate any information or leads someone
might have.
> Jane
>
>
>
>





"When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God"
                  Mosiah 2:17



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