Jeez Louise! What a diatribe from Phaewryn!
! I certainly believe in SOME animal communicators and I myself have
certainly seen several deceased people who gave me messages--one for
a neighbor family to whom we were very close and two for me from very
dear friends. And then there are so many friends and loved ones I
cannot see and I yearn to hear from. My mother smells flowers when a
loved one dies. She says it's like someone has dumped a bottle of
perfume at her feet it's so strong. None of these things happen all
the time but always come as a surprise.
Where do those powers come from? It depends on who has the powers.
Some are from God, some are from an evil place. They come from both
places. We are all very feeling people in the first place because
our love does not stop with humanity--it continues into a great love
for animals. So there you go.
Check out the incredible developments in quantum mechanics.
"Consciousness is Causal
and Physicality is its
Manifestation."
On Jun 10, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Debbie wrote:
I was disturbed by the below message. There is nothing wrong with
people believing in certain things. If those things bring them
comfort how could it ever be wrong? I read Phaewryn’s my space blog
and it seems to me she is someone who is dealing with a lot of deep
issues. She comes across as being a very angry and distrusting
person. Take it for what it is worth – just someone blowing off steam.
It must be a very sad and lonely life if a person doesn’t believe
strongly in something. Faith is the healing force and there is
nothing wrong with saying a prayer. If anything it humbles us
enough to make us see what is truly important in our lives.
Myself, I would say I wouldn’t go to any psychic readings of any
type, but that’s me. I do believe there are things that are
mystical or paranormal, etc…, but I have always wondered where
those powers come from? Good or Evil? Since I don’t know then I
choose not to use them., but if someone else finds comfort in it –
then that is their choice.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:felvtalk-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf OfMarylyn
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT - animal communication - please just delete without
reading.
I'm not going to respond to such an awful personal attack. I truly
believe in AC and know a number of people who practice it. It has
worked for me and it has worked for them. I am sorry it has not
worked for you. Perhaps one day.
If you have men
who will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise
with their fellow man.
St. Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: OT - animal communication - please just delete without
reading.
"And the thought that perhaps we need to ask the cats in question
what they would prefer when death is a serious option."
The idea that any of you actually BELIEVE that anyone can
psychically communicate with an animal is, to me, ABSURD. I think
the "animal communication" business is a FRAUD taking advantage of
people and their love of their pets (and often, their weakened
mental status because of desperation and stress). There may
actually BE good people out there who REALLY believe they
communicate with animals... people who are not frauds, people with
good hearts, but out of touch with reality. I'm not saying ALL AC's
are just out to make a buck or gain fame, but really, you can't
PROVE this stuff exists, and it's proven fact that other humans
WILL take advantage when given a chance! Anyone remember snake oil?
HELLO?!
You know what? This list has of recent had SO MANY emails about
animal communication, that it seems to be THE answer to EVERYTHING!
I just can't fathom the emotional susceptibility of a person to
actually believe in something so FAR OUT THERE and so obviously
unable to be proven. And to put an animals LIFE, or the question of
PHYSICAL MUTILATION, on the line based on what could just as well
be as valid as flipping a coin, well, it's just unfathomable, I
just can't come up with any other word for it! It's like a NEW
RELIGION... You can't see, it, you can't prove it, you can't feel
it, you can't do anything to prove it exists, yet you just blindly
throw your faith into it, and put everything you own in your heart
into this belief in the unprovable!
I JUST DO NOT GET IT !
In my opinion, all the talk of animal communication on this list
has made it's validity LAUGHABLE in the past year. This used to be
a place where people could come get answers based in REAL
EXPERIENCE and scientific studies, and it was a place to come to
for education on the scientific facts behind FELV (among other
feline health topics) and answers to questions about MEDICINE. This
used to be a place where when a vet was not so helpful, an owner
could come here and ask questions and leave feeling like they got
solid, helpful, and scientific advice and treatment options. There
has been more talk of psychic communication, afterlife, prayer, and
other crap (for lack of a better word) here in the past year than
there has been talk of the actual REAL facts of FELV. I learned SO
MUCH here in the past 6 years that I made an entire WEBSITE out of
that info. In the past year, I honestly think I've learned maybe 2
or 3 things here, and the rest has just been loads of fantastical
blind FAITH in NOTHING!
I'm leaving.. again... I'll be back... later. I always come back,
eventually. I can only HOPE that while I am gone, people will get a
GRIP on reality, and pull their heads out of la-la land! If you
want to change my mind, if you think I am wrong, I openly invite
anyone of you (or your pet psychics) to send me a SIGN. I'll be
sitting here waiting for the sounds of heralding angels
"Ahhhhhhhhhhh!" (cue the organ music) and beams of bright light and
spirits floating around in the room with me. I'll be awaiting
little kitties with wings taking flight by my head, lighting on my
shoulder, whispering "Meow do you believe in us?" in my ear, while
it rains glittery pixie dust in my room. Please send them my way.
Maybe I can ask them, while they are here, the meaning of life, why
there is suffering in the world, and when will we ever know world
peace.
Someone please email Michelle, and let her know I am gone, and that
it's safe to come back now.
Phaewryn
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