Ok,I was bit liberal w/ my wording.

All cats do not carry the corona virus.

I know that.

However, lots of cats do carry the corona virus, espeically cats in multi cat 
households.

Not all cats w/ the corona virus contact FIP, and it is not known why some do @ 
this point. 

Mostly, however, it will be very young, geriatrics or immune compromised cats 
like felv+ cats.

Feel free to correct if I am wrong.

And yes, there are lots of diseases that have similiar symptoms, but when those 
diseases are ruled out by medical tests, it only can be assumed that it is FIP.


Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
                                  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
                                   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
                                   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
                                   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
                                             Trajan Tennent




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MaryChristine 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  no, ALL cats do NOT carry the corona virus. please get your facts straight 
before posting things. 


  On 6/25/07, Susan Dubose < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Yes, it certainly sounds like wet FIP.

    All cats carry the corona virus, which can morph into FIP.

    It really just depends on genetics, age, (very young & older cats) and on 
extenuating circumstance like being felv+. (immune compromised)

    There are 2 forms of FIP, the wet & the dry.

    My first felv+ kitty, "Serenity", passed away from wet FIP.

    Their belly begins to swell, to the point where it presses against their 
lungs and makes it hard for them to breath.

    Their belly actually accumulates fluid, and the vet can withdraw some for 
testing.

    Their backbone will become more prominent, also.

    Eventually w/ their swollen belly, breathing becomes labored and they will 
begin to pant towards the end.

    Also, you can watch their nostrils for a tiny "flare', another way to tell 
they cannot breath.

    it is @ this time that you say good bye......  :(...

    I had to take Serenity to the emergency room to be PTS on a Sat. night on 
Thanksgiving weekend.

    Oh, it was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do.

    But you must remember, a compassionate & dignfied death is one of the best 
gifts you can give these cats.

    There is no real test for FIP, w/ the exception of withdrawing the fluid 
fromt he belly for testing.

    And w/ dry FIP you cannot even do this.

    You can, however, have a necropacy (?) performed afterwards, however, if 
the cat is felv+, there is no point.


    Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
    www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
    www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
    www.shadowcats.net
                                      "As Cleopatra lay in state,
                                       Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
                                       Purring welcomes of soft applause,
                                       Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
                                                 Trajan Tennent




      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: C & J 
      To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
      Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:53 PM 
      Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


      Tomi may have had wet FIP at the end, I don't know, but he was very 
anemic as well.  For the last week, his belly was swollen, and he was eating 
and drinking alot, but still getting thinner.  Does that sound like FIP?  I 
don't know where he would get that from.  Not that it matters I suppose, 
because he just couldn't deal with the anemia by itself, nevermind FIP thrown 
in.

      Cassandra
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Susan Dubose 
        To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
        Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
        Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


        Hi Cassandra,

        I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing 3 cats so close 
together must have been very hard on you.

        Question, was Tomi's labored breathing & panting due to his felv+ 
morphing into wet FIP?

        Susan
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: C & J 
          To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
          Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
          Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


          I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I 
have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was 
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

          He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise 
or person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.

          Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your 
presence when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him 
sometimes.  He never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many 
hugs/kisses, and never got angry.

          3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was 
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed 
and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another 
good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa 
(Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time 
with my Tomi as I would have liked.

          Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and 
crashed again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again 
he bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave 
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

          Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still 
drinking, but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he 
began panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He 
was so scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is 
absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.  

          A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll 
just wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually 
turn to numbness.

          Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  
It looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now 
over.

          Cassandra


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