Okay, no need to shout lol Personally, if my vet wouldn't treat my positive "unvaxxed for rabies" cat, I'd find a different vet. But, vet issue aside, i totally understand her stance since the bat but her cat. Totally.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote: > SOME VETS WILL NOT TREAT AN UNVACCINATED CAT, POS OR NOT. > > ---- Kat Parker <korruptaki...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so > > either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with > being > > positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again, > > probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a > > positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not > a > > big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have > that > > antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop > > antibodies. > > > > On Thursday, August 14, 2014, <felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> > <javascript:;> > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> > <javascript:;> > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Re: fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? (Shelley Theye) > > > 2. Re: New & have question (dlg...@windstream.net <javascript:;> > <javascript:;>) > > > 3. Re: FELV contagious (dlg...@windstream.net <javascript:;> > <javascript:;>) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400 > > > From: Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net <javascript:;> > <javascript:;>> > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? > > > Message-ID: <79d7a665-5346-488d-90a8-62c6c5664...@bellsouth.net > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > > > > > Hi Lance, > > > > > > I am not sure! I will ask her. She is pretty great. Didn't even > > > consider euth. when he tested positive. Went ahead and neutered Leo > and > > > told me the news later that day. > > > > > > I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year > when > > > I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating. > > > > > > Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the > vet > > > clinic. I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP. > > > > > > We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between > > > vaccines if do the FVRCP. I thought that was good of her > > > to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once. I > never > > > realized that until a few years ago. > > > > > > I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this, will probably > just > > > do the rabies though for now. > > > > > > Shelley > > > > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance <lini...@fastmail.fm > <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto > > > Vetinfo to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem > to > > > recall that Ember?s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we > never > > > did that. Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at > the > > > vet?s office as far as I know. Even the dentals didn?t weaken her > enough. > > > > > > > > If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go > > > with. It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a > fibrosarcoma (we > > > used to call them vax site sarcomas). > > > > > > > > Also, you?re not overthinking this. You?re being a good and > protective > > > cat parent. > > > > > > > > Best wishes for you and Leo, > > > > > > > > Lance > > > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi All, > > > >> > > > >> I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about > how > > > everyone feels about vaccinating > > > >> their Leukemia pos. cats in general. > > > >> > > > >> The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is > > > caused cats to become ill afterwards. > > > >> > > > >> I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the > > > Purevax like I did last year, but he > > > >> has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first > got > > > him and he was neutered and > > > >> I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards. At the time I > > > thought he was a feral cat, he actually was, > > > >> but has since become quite tame. > > > >> > > > >> Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the > > > cautionary emails on the subject. > > > >> I guess my only worry is that he will be more susceptible in a vet > > > clinic when he goes in for a check up for > > > >> for treatment if he doesn't have that vaccine, so just would like to > > > throw this out there again for thoughts on > > > >> this subject. Also, is there a certain type of FVRCP that might be > > > less dangerous, etc? > > > >> > > > >> I have done some reading on Dr. Lisa Pierson's website, and sounds > like > > > he should maybe have at least 2 vaccines > > > >> as an adult and then can stop. Am I overthinking this? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for any advice. So far, knock on wood, he is doing great, > > > though he is lonely, but I think since he was initially > > > >> semi-feral, the quiet lifestyle suits him. we built him a nice mini > > > screened porch/large window box which he really enjoys > > > >> and spend time with him daily. > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> Shelley > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:52:09 -0500 > > > From: <dlg...@windstream.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question > > > Message-ID: <20140813175209.WYRYT.48742.root@pamxwww05-z01> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL. IT IS A GOOD > > > ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT. I USE A TABLESPOON EACH > DAY, > > > IT TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS > AFTERWARDS. > > > (I JUST SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY > MOUTH.) > > > ---- Lance <lini...@fastmail.fm <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > I don?t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward > oral > > > health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes > pet > > > dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should > bring > > > up their site. I believe they?re owned by Virbac. > > > > > > > > After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and > DMG > > > (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often > > > gave her Prescription Diet t/d as a ?treat?. We rarely had any gum or > teeth > > > issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be > good > > > for a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain. > > > > > > > > Best wishes for you and the calico kitten, > > > > > > > > Lance > > > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes <sweet2bcota...@att.net > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original > > > test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+. I have 7 other cats and > have > > > done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs. We are waiting on IFA results > now. > > > I was reading the archives and read something about supplements to > promote > > > oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post. Can > > > someone help me with that info? Am waiting on labs now to decide on > course > > > of treatment. Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. > > > > > Thanks, Susan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:53:35 -0500 > > > From: <dlg...@windstream.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious > > > Message-ID: <20140813175335.NI5VP.48748.root@pamxwww05-z01> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE > DOES > > > NOT GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING. > > > ---- "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > Hi Maya, > > > > > > > > I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out > one > > > was > > > > positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against > > > FeLV. > > > > But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If > you > > > do > > > > decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is > > > > vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps. > > > > > > > > However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You > > > could > > > > alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to > contact > > > > you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for > FeLV or > > > if > > > > they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue > websites. > > > We > > > > have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always > dumping or > > > > rehoming their pets. > > > > > > > > I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive > cat. > > > > But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death > row, > > > and > > > > certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have > done > > > > it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for > > > > Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! <3 > > > > > > > > Katherine > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely. He is used to being > second in > > > > > command to our cat Yang who passed away. > > > > > > > > > > I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally > until > > > > > they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are > > > really > > > > > sick). She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing > > > another > > > > > cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune > > > compromised, > > > > > etc. This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure who to believe here. Obviously FELV is contagious, > and > > > it is > > > > > passed from cat to cat. The chance of that increases with > increased > > > > > contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been > > > running > > > > > the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them > died > > > from > > > > > it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them > test > > > > > negative for FELV recently. I can't imagine being responsible for > > > exposing > > > > > another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel > bad for > > > > > Merlot who is lonely. I was thining maybe I would consider (in six > > > months > > > > > or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another > home. > > > > > ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to > put > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Maya D'Alessio > > > > > PhD student > > > > > B1 377B, x32320 > > > > > Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator > > > > > Biology GSA Vice Chair > > > > > GSA Director At-Large > > > > > University of Waterloo > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 > > > ************************************** > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **"I'm Kat > > Parker. I park cats."* > > * "Spay & neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem."* > > *"Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY > > cat!"* > > > > *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector > > <http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector>* > > -- *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **"I'm Kat Parker. I park cats."* * "Spay & neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem."* *"Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY cat!"* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector <http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector>*
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