-----Forwarded Message----- >From: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> >Sent: Aug 16, 2014 7:39 AM >To: Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations > > > >Shelley, > > It is now available; > >http://www.merial.com/EN/PressRoom/PressRelease/Pages/Merial-Introduces-PUREVAX%C2%AE-Feline-Rabies-3-YR-Vaccine.aspx > > I don't think most Vets will carry it. The Vets will have to charge > $60-70 for it, and that probaby won't fly with most clients. I talked to my > Vet about it, and we came to the conclusion that they would likely not use > the full tray before it expired, and even I understand that that's too much > expense. I am considering asking if she can buy one full tray and come out > and do a mass vaccine day for me. > >HTH > >Margo > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net> >>Sent: Aug 15, 2014 9:38 AM >>To: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations >> >>Margo, >> >>I don't think there is a 3 year Purevax Rabies yet is there? >>I thought I read somewhere that it might last longer than a year, which it is >>listed as now, but that >>they hadn't officially decided to call it a 3 year. I would love to only >>have to think about this every 3 years! >> >>Shelley >> >> >>On Aug 14, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so >>> either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being >>> positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again, >>> probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a >>> positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a >>> big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that >>> antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop >>> antibodies." >>> >>> First, because it is mandated by law. It is not likely >>> that an indoor cat will be exposed to rabies, but it can happen. >>> >>> Second because not being vaccinated puts the cat at >>> risk should it somehow manage to bite or scratch someone. Much depends on >>> local ordinances, but there can be severe consequences to having an >>> unvaccinated pet (to the pet) should the person injured decide to push. My >>> positives are current at the moment, but when it comes time to >>> re-vaccinate, I will request a waiver. BUT! That will not change the >>> protocol should they be involved in an injury to a human. More likely I >>> will find somewhere to get them the 3 year Purevax rabies. >>> >>> Would you clarify your comment about an antibody problem? "They have that >>> antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop >>> antibodies." >>> >>> I'm afraid I don't quite understand. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mago >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kat Parker >>> Sent: Aug 14, 2014 1:22 PM >>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 >>> >>> Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so >>> either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being >>> positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again, >>> probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a >>> positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a >>> big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that >>> antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop >>> antibodies. >>> >>> On Thursday, August 14, 2014, wrote: >>> >>> > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > >>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> > >>> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> > >>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org >>> > >>> > You can reach the person managing the list at >>> > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org >>> > >>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> > >>> > >>> > Today's Topics: >>> > >>> > 1. Re: fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? (Shelley Theye) >>> > 2. Re: New & have question (dlg...@windstream.net ) >>> > 3. Re: FELV contagious (dlg...@windstream.net ) >>> > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > Message: 1 >>> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400 >>> > From: Shelley Theye > >>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? >>> > Message-ID: <79d7a665-5346-488d-90a8-62c6c5664...@bellsouth.net >>> > > >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >>> > >>> > Hi Lance, >>> > >>> > I am not sure! I will ask her. She is pretty great. Didn't even >>> > consider euth. when he tested positive. Went ahead and neutered Leo and >>> > told me the news later that day. >>> > >>> > I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when >>> > I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating. >>> > >>> > Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the vet >>> > clinic. I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP. >>> > >>> > We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between >>> > vaccines if do the FVRCP. I thought that was good of her >>> > to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once. I never >>> > realized that until a few years ago. >>> > >>> > I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this, will probably just >>> > do the rabies though for now. >>> > >>> > Shelley >>> > >>> > >>> > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto >>> > Vetinfo to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem to >>> > recall that Ember?s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we never >>> > did that. Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at the >>> > vet?s office as far as I know. Even the dentals didn?t weaken her enough. >>> > > >>> > > If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go >>> > with. It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a fibrosarcoma >>> > (we >>> > used to call them vax site sarcomas). >>> > > >>> > > Also, you?re not overthinking this. You?re being a good and protective >>> > cat parent. >>> > > >>> > > Best wishes for you and Leo, >>> > > >>> > > Lance >>> > > >>> > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> Hi All, >>> > >> >>> > >> I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about how >>> > everyone feels about vaccinating >>> > >> their Leukemia pos. cats in general. >>> > >> >>> > >> The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is >>> > caused cats to become ill afterwards. >>> > >> >>> > >> I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the >>> > Purevax like I did last year, but he >>> > >> has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first got >>> > him and he was neutered and >>> > >> I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards. At the time I >>> > thought he was a feral cat, he actually was, >>> > >> but has since become quite tame. >>> > >> >>> > >> Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the >>> > cautionary emails on the subject. >>> > >> I guess my only worry is that he will be more susceptible in a vet >>> > clinic when he goes in for a check up for >>> > >> for treatment if he doesn't have that vaccine, so just would like to >>> > throw this out there again for thoughts on >>> > >> this subject. Also, is there a certain type of FVRCP that might be >>> > less dangerous, etc? >>> > >> >>> > >> I have done some reading on Dr. Lisa Pierson's website, and sounds like >>> > he should maybe have at least 2 vaccines >>> > >> as an adult and then can stop. Am I overthinking this? >>> > >> >>> > >> Thanks for any advice. So far, knock on wood, he is doing great, >>> > though he is lonely, but I think since he was initially >>> > >> semi-feral, the quiet lifestyle suits him. we built him a nice mini >>> > screened porch/large window box which he really enjoys >>> > >> and spend time with him daily. >>> > >> >>> > >> Best, >>> > >> Shelley >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >> Felvtalk mailing list >>> > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Felvtalk mailing list >>> > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------ >>> > >>> > Message: 2 >>> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:52:09 -0500 >>> > From: > >>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question >>> > Message-ID: <20140813175209.WYRYT.48742.root@pamxwww05-z01> >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> > >>> > i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL. IT IS A GOOD >>> > ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT. I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY, >>> > IT TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS. >>> > (I JUST SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.) >>> > ---- Lance > wrote: >>> > > I don?t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral >>> > health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet >>> > dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should >>> > bring >>> > up their site. I believe they?re owned by Virbac. >>> > > >>> > > After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG >>> > (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often >>> > gave her Prescription Diet t/d as a ?treat?. We rarely had any gum or >>> > teeth >>> > issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good >>> > for a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain. >>> > > >>> > > Best wishes for you and the calico kitten, >>> > > >>> > > Lance >>> > > >>> > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Hi everyone, >>> > > > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original >>> > test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+. I have 7 other cats and have >>> > done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs. We are waiting on IFA results now. >>> > I was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote >>> > oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post. Can >>> > someone help me with that info? Am waiting on labs now to decide on course >>> > of treatment. Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. >>> > > > Thanks, Susan >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > Felvtalk mailing list >>> > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------ >>> > >>> > Message: 3 >>> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:53:35 -0500 >>> > From: > >>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious >>> > Message-ID: <20140813175335.NI5VP.48748.root@pamxwww05-z01> >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> > >>> > THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES >>> > NOT GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING. >>> > ---- "Katherine K." > wrote: >>> > > Hi Maya, >>> > > >>> > > I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one >>> > was >>> > > positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against >>> > FeLV. >>> > > But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you >>> > do >>> > > decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is >>> > > vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps. >>> > > >>> > > However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You >>> > could >>> > > alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact >>> > > you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or >>> > if >>> > > they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. >>> > We >>> > > have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping >>> > > or >>> > > rehoming their pets. >>> > > >>> > > I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive >>> > > cat. >>> > > But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, >>> > and >>> > > certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done >>> > > it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for >>> > > Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! <3 >>> > > >>> > > Katherine >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely. He is used to being second in >>> > > > command to our cat Yang who passed away. >>> > > > >>> > > > I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until >>> > > > they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are >>> > really >>> > > > sick). She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing >>> > another >>> > > > cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune >>> > compromised, >>> > > > etc. This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact. >>> > > > >>> > > > I'm not sure who to believe here. Obviously FELV is contagious, and >>> > it is >>> > > > passed from cat to cat. The chance of that increases with increased >>> > > > contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been >>> > running >>> > > > the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died >>> > from >>> > > > it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test >>> > > > negative for FELV recently. I can't imagine being responsible for >>> > exposing >>> > > > another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad >>> > > > for >>> > > > Merlot who is lonely. I was thining maybe I would consider (in six >>> > months >>> > > > or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another >>> > > > home. >>> > > > ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put >>> > down. >>> > > > >>> > > > What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this? >>> > > > >>> > > > -- >>> > > > Maya D'Alessio >>> > > > PhD student >>> > > > B1 377B, x32320 >>> > > > Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator >>> > > > Biology GSA Vice Chair >>> > > > GSA Director At-Large >>> > > > University of Waterloo >>> > > > >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > Felvtalk mailing list >>> > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------ >>> > >>> > Subject: Digest Footer >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Felvtalk mailing list >>> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------ >>> > >>> > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 >>> > ************************************** >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **"I'm Kat >>> Parker. I park cats."* >>> * "Spay & neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem."* >>> *"Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY >>> cat!"* >>> >>> *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector >>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>
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