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There is also an ingestible once-a-month flea treatment if you're caring for feral colonies, etc. And I am loving my new $4 Oster Flea comb from Amazon to get "flea dust" by another means … On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, <felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org> wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Plan for Coco (Kelley S) > 2. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Margo) > 3. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (dlg...@windstream.net) > 4. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Lorrie) > 5. Re: Plan for Coco (Lorrie) > 6. Re: Plan for Coco (dlg...@windstream.net) > 7. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Katherine K.) > 8. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Amani Oakley) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:51:59 -0500 > From: Kelley S <moonv...@gmail.com> > To: felvtalk <Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco > Message-ID: > < > cae8gywgn3qkn_kaa1yzfrsr25tvxgg2aur5fch+ic1spjle...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi all, > > Coco is FELV+ kitty #2. My plan for her so she doesn't feel so alone until > I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested negative, some > multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put her in it at least a > couple hours a day out here. Now, what I want to ask yall about is > spaying. She is unsprayed. There is NO chance of her getting out (she'd > have to get out of the FELV room, then out of the basement, then upstairs > then out an exterior door upstairs, which is not going to happen, plus when > we leave we go out the garage door to go out so if anyone WERE to follow us > they'd still just be in the garage). As long as I've had her she has never > seemed to go into heat. If she did it was a silent heat. Is it more > stressful to spay her or more stressful to not spay her? > > She is a beautiful medium hair orange girl. > > I am going to ask the doctor about Winstrol for her. I am debating taking > her to the holistic vet but she is so expensive here ($400 for an initial > visit). I have her on Standard Process Feline Immune System support 1 > tablet 2x day. I am putting a Seresto collar on her if I can keep it on > her We have a bad flea problem here and nothing I am doing is helping. I > have lived all over the south and this is the worst flea problem I've ever > seen. We have tried diatomaceous earth. Advantage doesn't do much at > all. Revolution works for a little while. I have some Advantage spray > which kills adults, larva and eggs to spray on carpeted furniture I am > taking the blankies out of that room and wash them in hot water and dry on > high heat to kill eggs Even our vet does not know what to do. I am > declaring WAR on these flea. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150927/4540ee89/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:07:04 -0400 (GMT-04:00) > From: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge > Message-ID: > < > 28079601.1443391624799.javamail.r...@wamui-mosaic.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150927/94ca8483/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 22:20:09 -0500 > From: <dlg...@windstream.net> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge > Message-ID: <20150927232009.6TQQT.7668.root@pamxwww03-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I am so sorry for you and Merlin. I have been there far too many times > and it never gets easier > Do not punish yourself too much. We try to do our best and with every > loss, we learn and future cats benefit. You did the best you knew with the > knowledge you had and most of all, you loved him and he knew it. > > > ---- Kelley S <moonv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > They say his heart gave out. > > > > Kelley > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:40:25 -0400 > From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge > Message-ID: <20150928114025.GB830@lnx12> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Kelley, > - > You did NOT fail him. Heart disease is not easily detected and cats > are very good at hiding their pain and illness. I had a FelV cat who > just suddenly died at age 6 and she showed no symtoms of illness, she > simply laid down and died on the kitchen floor. This is the longest > any of my FelV cats lived. Most of them die at 8 to 10 months of age. > - > Lorrie > > On 09-27, Kelley S wrote: > > I failed him.? I did not notice his symptoms in time.? Now I have > his > > "sister" (not blood related" by herself.? She is going to be > > miserable,she does not like to be alone.? I had an appointment for 2 > > other cats on Monday.? I am switching her out with one of them so > that > > I can get her completely checked out.? Not that heart failure is > > contagious, but I need to be more on top of my FELV+ cats, or now, > > cat.? I can't do this anymore, I don't know how yall do it.? I don't > > have "too many" cats overall, but I do think I have "too many" to > > handle many chronically ill (or potentially chronically ill).? I > guess > > any cat is "potentially chronically ill." ? By the way, I fell even > > more in love with this doctor when he told me he had taken home 2 > FELV+ > > kittens from the clinic and they died before 10 months old.? I read > > between the lines that someone wanted their FELV+ kittens euthanized > or > > did not want them when they tested pos. ? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:48:01 -0400 > From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco > Message-ID: <20150928114801.GC830@lnx12> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > To spay or not to spay, that is the question. I had one spayed years > ago and she came thru it fine, but this is the one who died suddenly > at age 6. Her sister was not spayed, but put on birth control and she > is still alive and appears fine. My other FelV cats died mostly as > kittens ages 8 to 10 months, but one made it to a year and a half.. > - > Lorrie > > > On 09-27, Kelley S wrote: > > Hi all, > > Coco is FELV+ kitty #2.? My plan for her so she doesn't feel so alone > > until I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested > > negative, some multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put her > > in it at least a couple hours a day out here.? Now, what I want to > ask > > yall about is spaying.? She is unsprayed.............. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 6:57:56 -0500 > From: <dlg...@windstream.net> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, felineres...@frontier.com > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco > Message-ID: <20150928075756.R8SON.8369.root@pamxwww11-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > All of my cats get spayed/neutered as soon as they are old enough. > Unwanted kittens are targets for guns, cars and poison around here. People > think of strays, dog or cat s a nuisance, not worthy of respect and life. > > > ---- Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote: > > > > To spay or not to spay, that is the question. I had one spayed years > > ago and she came thru it fine, but this is the one who died suddenly > > at age 6. Her sister was not spayed, but put on birth control and she > > is still alive and appears fine. My other FelV cats died mostly as > > kittens ages 8 to 10 months, but one made it to a year and a half.. > > - > > Lorrie > > > > > > On 09-27, Kelley S wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > Coco is FELV+ kitty #2.? My plan for her so she doesn't feel so > alone > > > until I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested > > > negative, some multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put > her > > > in it at least a couple hours a day out here.? Now, what I want to > ask > > > yall about is spaying.? She is unsprayed.............. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:32:34 -0400 > From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge > Message-ID: > < > calslj93f8tjsgpkzdherdsejmw1q+zukzh1jfl6893f1a_l...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm so sorry Kelley. Thank you for taking such good care of Merlin. I know > he appreciated it. <3 <3 <3 > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote: > > > Kelley, > > - > > You did NOT fail him. Heart disease is not easily detected and cats > > are very good at hiding their pain and illness. I had a FelV cat who > > just suddenly died at age 6 and she showed no symtoms of illness, she > > simply laid down and died on the kitchen floor. This is the longest > > any of my FelV cats lived. Most of them die at 8 to 10 months of age. > > - > > Lorrie > > > > On 09-27, Kelley S wrote: > > > I failed him.? I did not notice his symptoms in time.? Now I have > > his > > > "sister" (not blood related" by herself.? She is going to be > > > miserable,she does not like to be alone.? I had an appointment for > 2 > > > other cats on Monday.? I am switching her out with one of them so > > that > > > I can get her completely checked out.? Not that heart failure is > > > contagious, but I need to be more on top of my FELV+ cats, or now, > > > cat.? I can't do this anymore, I don't know how yall do it.? I > don't > > > have "too many" cats overall, but I do think I have "too many" to > > > handle many chronically ill (or potentially chronically ill).? I > > guess > > > any cat is "potentially chronically ill." ? By the way, I fell even > > > more in love with this doctor when he told me he had taken home 2 > > FELV+ > > > kittens from the clinic and they died before 10 months old.? I read > > > between the lines that someone wanted their FELV+ kittens euthanized > > or > > > did not want them when they tested pos. ? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150928/67b0f3c7/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:26:30 +0000 > From: Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge > Message-ID: > <E0C1DFB06E10174B9D4AE353A62CECE3365466AC@OAKLEYSRV.oakley.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Kelley > > My sadness is profound for your loss. My Zander ? he of the wondrous > response to Winstrol ? also finally succumbed at age 7 to a very bad heart. > The vet said she had never seen anything so bad, and yet there were no > indications of any heart problem for the whole time. My first thought ? > like you ? was that I must have missed something and I even blamed the > Winstrol for the dilated cardiomyopathy. I went on line and searched and > searched but couldn?t find a link. I suspect now that the virus distorted > his heart as part of its pathology. When I read about your Merlin, that > seemed to fit with the theory that the virus does this to them. > > Don?t beat yourself up. I couldn?t have been closer to my Zander and my > husband and I were doting parents and were constantly with him, but we saw > nothing. > > Whenever I lose one of my darling babies, I have to constantly remind > myself that if not for me, they would have been out on the street or put > down at an early age. If not for me, they wouldn?t have had days of > sunshine and happiness and love and nourishment. You know that too. > > Still, it doesn?t ease the pain much, I know. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Kelley S > Sent: September-27-15 3:08 PM > To: felvtalk > Subject: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge > > They say his heart gave out. > > Kelley > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150928/fbef7b42/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 21 > **************************************** >
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