Randy....

I am SO happy to hear that Curly had a very positive response to Mirtazapine.... albeit FAR in excess of anything I saw with my Yogi.....  Nothing makes us happier here than to hear positive stories about FeLV kitties responding positively to treatment...... I feel happy for the Cats and even more so for the caretakers who are so obviously committed to their pets....  a welcome relief from the stories I hear daily about people who won't do even the simplest things to assure the welfare of their charges...... Actually... being short on cash...I often feel quite badly seeing the kind of money people are spending on their cats and feeling a measure of conflict when I consider how many people really CAN'T afford to take a FeLV cat home.....  You can't purchase insurance for them which means a LOT of cash outlay for Vet bills if you happen to have a Kitty that starts to get sick early on....  The more expensive vet care gets the fewer can afford pets if the are of modest means.....  This is bad for the many thousands of pets awaiting homes in shelters and PARTICULARLY bad for the adoption odds of FeLV and and FIV cats.
Please keep us up to date on Curlys' progress!!!


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Hi, I have a 7 month old kitten that I am considering starting the T-Cell injections for him. He is presenting with possible IBD right now or GI Lymphoma. I am wondering if anyone has had cat/kitten with similar symptoms and has used the Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator injections? Also wondering if anyone has had a FeLV+ cat with confirmed (thru ultrasound) thickened intestinal walls and if you've done intestinal biopsy to determine IBD or GI Lymphoma. Thank you, Debbie K. -------------- next part --------------
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Hi, I have a 7 month old kitten, Joe.........had an eye enucleation in Sept. tested NEG-FELV. But.due to lethargy and the eye removal site not looking right.I took him to my REGULAR vet. He has now tested POSITIVE-FELV and is extremely anemic. He is eating well and drinking. Getting laser on eye surgical site, BUT I would love to to try the LTCI injections for him. Has anyone here tried them ?
Thanks, Patti
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Hi Debbie

I tried them for several months, and tested blood work weekly. I didn?t find the injections budged the low red cell/haematocrit/retic/platelet counts at all. However, I recall others in this group who have reported better results.

Are you new to the group? I don?t want to jump in with my experiences with Winstrol if you have heard it all before.

Amani

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator and FeLV

Hi,
I have a 7 month old kitten that I am considering starting the T-Cell injections for him. He is presenting with possible IBD right now or GI Lymphoma. I am wondering if anyone has had cat/kitten with similar symptoms and has used the Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator injections? Also wondering if anyone has had a FeLV+ cat with confirmed (thru ultrasound) thickened intestinal walls and if you've done intestinal biopsy to determine IBD or GI Lymphoma.
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Hi Patti

See my response to Debbie, who just posted earlier today, with a similar question.

Amani

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??

Hi,
I have a 7 month old kitten, Joe.........had an eye enucleation in Sept. tested NEG-FELV. But.due to lethargy and the eye removal site not looking right.I took him to my REGULAR vet. He has now tested POSITIVE-FELV and is extremely anemic. He is eating well and drinking. Getting laser on eye surgical site, BUT I would love to to try the LTCI injections for him. Has anyone here tried them ?

Thanks,
Patti

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It has been a little over a month ago that I asked for advice on this forum
for our little girl, Curly.

At that point, I had little hope. She was so lethargic and her hematocrit had dipped to a critical 9%. I took everyone's advice, especially Amani's,
and asked our vet for Predisolone, Winstrol and Doxycycline.

According to her latest CBC two weeks ago, she is still a very sick kitty but her hematocrit rebounded to 15% which I know is still very low. All other numbers are improving slowly as well. That was after less than three
weeks of treatment.

She is due for another CBC next Tuesday and I am hopeful we will see more improvement. I've noticed her gums are more pink which I believe is a good
sign.

We were still having problems with getting her to eat. She would have her good days and her bad days but her weight was still creeping down. Last
week I asked our vet about Mirtazapine and our vet agreed to give us a
prescription for it. I have to thank Robert for mentioning this in one of
his posts.

One day last week she didn't want to eat so I gave her a quarter pill (3.75 mg) which is the dose our vet prescribed to give her daily. The result was phenomenal and almost a little scary. She was bouncing off the walls within a few hours and eating everything she could get her paws on. I almost felt a little sorry for her because it was like she couldn't sit still for more than a couple of minutes. But it was like getting our old Curly back again
in just a single day!

The effect tapered off after a couple of days and we didn't feel
comfortable giving her another dose until she stopped eating again because of how dramatic the change was. I've read online that a smaller dose could be effective if given every 72 hours so we are going to try doing that so she keeps eating. It was incredible to see her weight go up by a quarter
pound in just a couple of days.

We are continuing the Prednisolone and Winstrol at the recommended doses but our two week Doxycycline prescription ran out over a week ago. She does appear to still be making improvement without it but I'm wondering if I
should ask for another prescription to keep that going as well.

I always worry about giving her the quarter pill of Doxy because I know it
can cause esophageal damage if it isn't followed by liquids. I was
following the pill with the liquid Winstrol solution but wasn't sure if
that was enough.

Many thanks to everyone who gave us advice. It looks like we might have our Curly back for at least a while yet and it's all because of you people.

Randy
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