On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 13:09:53 +0200
Johan Hake <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Monday September 2 2013 12:07:15 Jan Blechta wrote:
> > On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:52:55 +0200
> > 
> > Johan Hake <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Monday September 2 2013 11:45:21 Jan Blechta wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:36:28 +0200
> > > > 
> > > > Johan Hake <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > On Monday September 2 2013 10:09:56 Garth N. Wells wrote:
> > > > > > On 2 September 2013 09:58, Johan Hake <[email protected]>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday September 2 2013 09:42:49 Garth N. Wells wrote:
> > > > > > >> On 2 September 2013 09:30, Johan Hake
> > > > > > >> <[email protected]>
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > Seems like updating the doc string wont help as enough
> > > > > > >> > people have tried
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > use the vertex_to_dof_map and failed.
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > I agree that the left to right reading does not apply
> > > > > > >> > to the example Garth
> > > > > > >> > presented. If that is the expected behavior, and I
> > > > > > >> > guess it is given the
> > > > > > >> > comments in this treahd, we should just rename the
> > > > > > >> > methods. That would generalize the methods and
> > > > > > >> > probably fit better into the general interface
> > > > > > >> > of DofMap.
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > However that would limit the scope of the map and
> > > > > > >> > remove one important motivation for adding the map in
> > > > > > >> > the first place, namely to turn general
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > vector function values ordered as:
> > > > > > >> How can renaming limit scope? The functionality remains
> > > > > > >> the same.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Because it is not enough to just rename it. We also need
> > > > > > > to remove the functionality for vector function spaces.
> > > > > > > Your example does not make sense
> > > > > > > if>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > you change:
> > > > > > >   V = FunctionSpace(mesh, "Lagrange", 1)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   V = VectorFunctionSpace(mesh, "Lagrange", 1)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My example was deliberately simple. The functionality can be
> > > > > > retained.
> > > > > 
> > > > > How? With a map of maps, where the second is the local dof
> > > > > index?
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >> >   vertex_index*dofs_per_vertex+local_dof
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > to an array which could be feed directly into a vector
> > > > > > >> > of a Function in a
> > > > > > >> > VectorFunctionSpace (or similar mixed CG1 function
> > > > > > >> > spaces). The present functionality also works for
> > > > > > >> > parallel runs, as seen by the following example:
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > mpirunt -np 2 python vertex_to_dofs.py
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > # vertex_to_dofs.py
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > from dolfin import *
> > > > > > >> > import numpy as np
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > mesh = UnitSquareMesh(20,20)
> > > > > > >> > V = VectorFunctionSpace(mesh, "CG", 1)
> > > > > > >> > u = Function(V)
> > > > > > >> > vertex_to_dof_map = V.dofmap().vertex_to_dof_map(mesh)
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > data = np.reshape(mesh.coordinates()[:],
> > > > > > >> > (mesh.num_vertices()*2))
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> This is problematic - it makes an assumption of the
> > > > > > >> ordering in mesh.coordinates().
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The only assumption is that you have some data (possible
> > > > > > > vector or tensor data) which are ordered based on the mesh
> > > > > > > (vertices).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> I have seen that a good re-ordering of mesh data
> > > > > > >> can give up to a 50% speed up for assembly, and which
> > > > > > >> will be added in the future. We should not be exposing
> > > > > > >> low-level storage.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Not sure what you mean. This has nothing to do with
> > > > > > > assemble. Only transferring vertex based data into a
> > > > > > > Function.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Exposing low level storage (e.g. (mesh.coordinates()),
> > > > > > violates data hiding, which then can affect all parts of a
> > > > > > code. If the mesh data ordering is changed, say to make
> > > > > > assembler faster, your example code will likely break.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Using mesh.coordinates() was just an example on some data
> > > > > which comes together with the mesh. I just high-jacked
> > > > > coordinates to represent some vector field aligned with the
> > > > > mesh. Real data often comes aligned with the mesh and we need
> > > > > a simple and intuitive way to read such data into a Function.
> > > > > This is basic functionality alot of users need for their
> > > > > applications.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you intend to include some mesh reordering, I suggest that
> > > > > you also include some mapping that brings mesh data to
> > > > > reordered mesh data, and then we need a map to bring
> > > > > reordered mesh data to dof ordering.
> > > > 
> > > > Why? This is just changing vertex indices. Currently they're
> > > > already ordered "somehow irregularly". So they will ordered in
> > > > the other way...
> > > 
> > > Because the average Joe have a mesh from somewhere together with
> > > some data. If the mesh is reordered by some algorithm we need to
> > > provide a way for Joe to map his data to the new mesh ordering,
> > > so he can call
> > > 
> > >   u.assign_vertex_data(reordered_vretex_based_data)
> > > 
> > > or what not.
> > 
> > If I get it correctly, mesh will be reordered once when loaded by
> > DOLFIN. This is already being done and the method how to reorder
> > some data accordingly is not available.
> 
> AFAIK the present reordering is limited to shuffling local vertices
> around in a cell. This will screw up any facet based mesh values, but
> all vertex and cell based values are preserved.
> 
> > For example, there is an open bug on launchpad, that when
> > unordered DOLFIN XML mesh with mesh function is loaded and
> > reordered, mesh function breaks.
> > 
> > Loading of mesh functions is currently supported and safe to the
> > extent supported in `meshconvert.py`.
> > 
> > Note also that changing vertex indices will require to renumber
> > cell-local vertices and facets according to UFC numbering scheme
> > (=mesh.order()). Hence in addition you will have to provide a way
> > how to keep up-to-date facet based data (FacetFunction), as this is
> > not currently available as I said above.
> 
> True. But the ufc ordering is well documented, and implemented in
> several mesh conversion methods in meshconvert.py. 

Yeah, but problem is that some methods in meshconvert.py use
Mesh::order() and some implement UFC scheme from scratch. Hence if
Garth's new reordering will be a part of Mesh::order() some methods
will keep working and some not.

Garth, so what is the concept? Is new ordering going to be a part of
Mesh::order() or will it depend on function space and be part of
assembler?

Jan

> 
> I am fine with any solutions that makes it possible for a user to
> read in mesh based values and assigning that easily to a Function.
> This should of course work in parallel too. 
> 
> Johan
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Jan
> > 
> > > Johan
> > > 
> > > > Jan
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > u.vector().set_local(data[vertex_to_dof_map])
> > > > > > >> > plot(u, interactive=True)
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> Why not just use Function::compute_vertex_values(...)
> > > > > > >> (plus any necessary generalisation)?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The comparison with compute_vertex_values is appropriate.
> > > > > > > It was raised when we discussed the inclusion of the map
> > > > > > > in the first place. However the (present)
> > > > > > > vertex_to_dof_map give the mapping from vertex based data
> > > > > > > to a Function, where compute_vertex_values does the
> > > > > > > opposite.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, but two functions were added to GenericDofMap. One
> > > > > > seems to duplicate existing functionality.
> > > > > 
> > > > > True. But the two maps, can only be used on data defined on
> > > > > vertices (CG1). compute_vertex_values are more general as it
> > > > > works for Functions on a lot more FunctionSpaces (CG2, DG0,
> > > > > aso)?
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > The map is also just
> > > > > > > computed once and can therefore be reused by the user if
> > > > > > > that is needed.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't see the benefit if one can use
> > > > > > Function::compute_vertex_values.
> > > > > 
> > > > > See Martin's answer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Johan
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Garth
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Johan
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> Garth
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > Johan
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > On Saturday August 31 2013 10:20:21 Simone Pezzuto
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> Hi,
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >>           I'm familiar with these two maps since I use
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> them
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> for a gradient
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> recovery technique.
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> I can assure you that first time I used
> > > > > > >> >> vertex_to_dof_map I was a bit confused,
> > > > > > >> >> since the convention should be left to right (as Garth
> > > > > > >> >> pointed out).
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> Example: eps2pdf fig.eps  ---> fig.pdf
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >>                   vertex2dof vertex_id --> dof_id
> > > > > > >> >>                   dof2vertex dof_id --> vertex_id
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> So at the moment is really confusing. Maybe we can
> > > > > > >> >> introduce new functions
> > > > > > >> >> {vertex2dof,dof2vertex}_map
> > > > > > >> >> (no name collision) and deprecate the old one, so the
> > > > > > >> >> user is aware of the
> > > > > > >> >> change but its code doesn't brake.
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >>  Simone
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> 2013/8/31 Jan Blechta <[email protected]>
> > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 23:47:35 +0100
> > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > "Garth N. Wells" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > > On 30 August 2013 23:37, Johan Hake
> > > > > > >> >> > > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > On Friday August 30 2013 23:19:09 Garth N. Wells
> > > > > > >> >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> On 30 August 2013 22:50, Johan Hake
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> <[email protected]>
> > > > > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > On Friday August 30 2013 15:47:28 Garth N.
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > Wells
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> The functions
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> GenericDofmap::vertex_to_dof_map and
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> GenericDofMap::dof_to_vertex_map are not
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> properly documented (the doc string is the
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> same for both), and I think that they are
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> back to front. The docstring in DofMap has
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> inconsistencies. I would expect that
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     map0 =
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> GenericDofmap::vertex_to_dof_map(...)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> would mean a map from vertex to dof, i.e.
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     map0[vertex_index] -> dof index
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> and  that
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     map1 =
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> GenericDofmap::dof_to_vertex_map(...)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> would mean a map from dof index to
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     map1[dof_index] -> vertex index
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> Tests (see below code) and the return types
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> also indicate that
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> things are back to front. Can someone
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> clarify the situation?
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > The map was introduced to help a user map
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > vertex based data onto
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > a Function.>
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   from dolfin import *
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   import numpy as np
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   mesh = UnitSquareMesh(20,20)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   V = VectorFunctionSpace(mesh, "CG", 1)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   u = Function(V)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   vertex_to_dof_map =
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > V.dofmap().vertex_to_dof_map(mesh)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   data = np.reshape(mesh.coordinates()[:],
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > (mesh.num_vertices()*2)) u.vector()[:] =
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > data[vertex_to_dof_map]
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   plot(u, interactive=True)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > The size of the data array should be:
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >   mesh.num_vertices()*u.value_size()
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > The documentation should be improved, and not
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > least properly mapped from C++ to Python.
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > The name refer to the mapping that turn
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > vertex based data to dof
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > based and reads quite well when used as
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > above. I can see that the word map can be
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > missleading. It is not a "map" data
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > structure. It is an index set that "maps
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > values".
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > Still confused?
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> I'm not confused. It's clear that the function
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> names are back-to-front. It doesn't matter what
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> they were included for - they
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> are members of GenericDofMap and must make
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> sense in that context.
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> Since reading from left to right is a well
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> established convention,
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> I propose that (a) the function names be fixed
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> by reversing them;
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> and (b) the doc strings be fixed.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > > Agree on (b). I am not fully convinced by (a).
> > > > > > >> >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > > I am not sure what your example tries to show.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > You are not using the mapping the intended way
> > > > > > >> >> > > > and I am therefore confused about the
> > > > > > >> >> > > > whole back-to-front, front-to-back discussion.
> > > > > > >> >> > > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > Just read the function names aloud from left to
> > > > > > >> >> > > right
> > > > > > >> >> > > - 'vertex_to_dof_map' should be a 'vertex to dof
> > > > > > >> >> > > map', i.e. a map from
> > > > > > >> >> > > a
> > > > > > >> >> > > vertex *to* a dof.
> > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > Just read from left to right - 'vertex_to_dof_map'
> > > > > > >> >> > stands for a map which turns a vertex map into a dof
> > > > > > >> >> > map (when used as a right composition).
> > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > Yes, I was confused at first when I saw this and
> > > > > > >> >> > agree with Garth it should be 'left to right'. But
> > > > > > >> >> > does it worth switching it? Is the whole
> > > > > > >> >> > concept of indexing by
> > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> >   vertex_index*dofs_per_vertex+local_dof
> > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > sustainable? Or should it be replaced by some more
> > > > > > >> >> > robust types which
> > > > > > >> >> > would handle non-injective map (and its inversion)?
> > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > There were some user codes using these functions as
> > > > > > >> >> > seen in discussions.
> > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > Jan
> > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > Garth
> > > > > > >> >> > > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > > Johan
> > > > > > >> >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> Garth
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > Johan
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> Garth
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> from dolfin import *
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> mesh = UnitSquareMesh(4, 4)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> V = FunctionSpace(mesh, "Lagrange", 1)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> dof_to_vertex =
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> V.dofmap().dof_to_vertex_map(mesh)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> vertex_to_dof =
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> V.dofmap().vertex_to_dof_map(mesh)
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> for c in cells(mesh):
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     print "Cell index:", c.index()
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     # Get cell dofs
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     dofs = V.dofmap().cell_dofs(c.index())
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     print "  Cell dofs:", dofs
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     # Get vertices from cell
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     cell_vertices0 = sorted([v.index() for
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> v in vertices(c)])
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     print "  Cell vertex indices (from
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> cell):", cell_vertices0
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     # Get vertices from dof_to_vertex
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     cell_vertices1 =
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> sorted([dof_to_vertex[dof]
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> for
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> dof in
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> dofs]) print "  Cell vertex indices (from
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> dof_to_vertex_map):",
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     cell_vertices1
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     # Get vertices from vertex_to_dof_map
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     cell_vertices2 =
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> sorted([vertex_to_dof[dof]
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> for
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> dof in
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> dofs]) print "  Cell vertex indices (from
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> vertex_to_dof_map):",
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >>     cell_vertices2
> > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> 
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