Colleagues of mine are working in shape optimization with FEniCS, where you
solve a PDE on a domain Omega1, and use the solution to define a new domain
Omega2 on which the same PDE is solved (and so forth). A built-in mesh
generator is essential in this workflow.

--Nico
On Oct 17, 2013 3:06 PM, "Garth N. Wells" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2013-10-17 06:42, Anders Logg wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 08:48:31PM +0100, Garth N. Wells wrote:
>>
>>> On 2013-10-16 20:17, Anders Logg wrote:
>>> >On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:00:08PM +0100, Chris Richardson wrote:
>>> >>On 16/10/2013 09:25, Garth N. Wells wrote:
>>> >>>Does anyone have an opinion on keeping or removing CGAL from DOLFIN?
>>> >>>Below are some pros and cons:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>- CGAL makes DOLFIN slow to build and builds use a lot of memory.
>>> >>>- CGAL is unpredictable in throwing errors (predictable in that it
>>> >>>will throw cryptic errors, unpredictable when or with which compiler).
>>> >>>- CGAL is difficult to understand and the latest version has very
>>> >>>cryptic interface changes.
>>> >>>- Almost all of the random DOLFIN buildbot failures are due to CGAL
>>> >>>mesh generation failures.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>+ CGAL provides mesh generation for a variety of simple shape
>>> >>>combinations (the DOLFIN interface to CGAL is not rich enough for
>>> >>>anything serious).
>>> >>
>>> >>Agreed. Anyone serious will make their mesh independently, so CGAL
>>> >>is really just an annoying toy in this context... (!)
>>> >
>>> >That may be true, but simple also has a use.
>>> >
>>> >It's an optional dependency, so why is it a big problem?
>>> >
>>>
>>> (a) the tests keep failing randomly; (b) it breaks with GCC 4.8; and
>>> (c) updating to CGAL 3.4 is a cryptic mess.
>>>
>>
>> I think
>>
>> (a) enable the tests only on one buildbot, the one where we know it
>> fails the least
>>
>> (b) + (c) try to find a replacement backend mesher (or write our own
>> mesher) as a long-term solution
>>
>>
> The question to ask is what is the purpose of built-in mesh generation?. I
> can only think of teaching. Anything else?
>
> Writing our own mesh generation would be a huge waste of time. There are
> good mesh generators available (netgen, gmsh, etc).
>
> Garth
>
>
>  --
>> Anders
>>
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