Try again with 
https://bitbucket.org/nschloe/fiat/commits/76786e404db13db5b5ac611eb16aad3395b3974f?at=master.

--Nico

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Aslak Bergersen
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, it passes for the 1D tests, but it fails for all 2D tests and most of
> the 3D tests. I get
>
> ```
> IndexError: tuple index out of range
> ```
>
> Both the tests in fiat and ffc fails.
>
> Aslak
>
>
> 2014-07-24 23:53 GMT+02:00 Nico Schlömer <[email protected]>:
>
>> I just pushed
>>
>>
>> https://bitbucket.org/nschloe/fiat/commits/4e8dab41de10545d671921a722199e78d25a878e
>>
>> which should hopefully do the trick. Aslak, can you try it out?
>>
>> --Nico
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Aslak Bergersen
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > No, it's:
>> >
>> > FIAT tests:
>> >                       1D      2D      3D
>> > FIAT master    pass  pass   pass
>> > [2]                  fail     pass   pass
>> >
>> > FFC tests:
>> >                       1D      2D      3D
>> > FIAT master    pass  pass   pass
>> > [2]                  fail     pass    pass
>> >
>> > Note that this with [5] and python 2, but I don't think that matters.
>> > The
>> > result is the same for python 3 and [6]. And that the 1D FIAT test is
>> > the
>> > one that I implemented.
>> >
>> > [5]
>> >
>> > https://bitbucket.org/aslakbergersen/ffc/branch/aslakbergersen/topic-prepare-py3
>> > [6] https://bitbucket.org/fenics/ffc/
>> >
>> > Den torsdag 24. juli 2014 skrev Nico Schlömer <[email protected]>
>> > følgende:
>> >>
>> >> > By SP-removal branch you mean [4]?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No sorry, [4] is a misnomer and should have been removed (which I did
>> >> just now). [1]/[2] is the actual SP-removal branch.
>> >> Could you run the FFC and FIAT tests on [2] again? If I understand
>> >> correctly, the outcome i:
>> >>
>> >> FIAT tests:
>> >>                       1D      2D      3D
>> >> FIAT master    pass  pass   pass
>> >> [2]                  fail     pass   pass
>> >>
>> >> FFC tests:
>> >>                       1D      2D      3D
>> >> FIAT master    pass  pass   pass
>> >> [2]                  fail     fail      fail
>> >>
>> >> Correct?
>> >>
>> >> --Nico
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://bitbucket.org/nschloe/fiat/branch/improve-tests
>> >> [2]
>> >>
>> >> https://bitbucket.org/aslakbergersen/fiat/branch/aslakbergersen/topic-prepare-py3
>> >> [4] https://bitbucket.org/nschloe/fiat/branch/replace-scientific-python
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Aslak Bergersen
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > By SP-removal branch you mean [4]?
>> >> >
>> >> > I run ffc with [4] and it passes for 1D and 3D but not 2D.
>> >> > The test that I implemented in FIAT is not possible to run.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you mean [1] by SP-removal, then yes the test that I just
>> >> > implemented
>> >> > in
>> >> > FIAT gives the same error as the tests in ffc and passes for the
>> >> > fenics/master branch.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [4]
>> >> > https://bitbucket.org/nschloe/fiat/branch/replace-scientific-python
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2014-07-24 19:45 GMT+02:00 Nico Schlömer <[email protected]>:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Okay, then this is a problem. Do you know if your 1D test captures a
>> >> >> difference in behavior between FIAT master and the SP-removal
>> >> >> branch?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --Nico
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> > No, for [3] all tests passes in ffc.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > [3] https://bitbucket.org/fenics-project/fiat
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2014-07-24 19:28 GMT+02:00 Nico Schlömer
>> >> >> > <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Do those tests fail with the latest FIAT master, too?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --Nico
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > If you run ffc with this version of fiat then all 1D tests
>> >> >> >> > fails
>> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> > both
>> >> >> >> > python 2 and python 3. Isn't that a problem that
>> >> >> >> > needs to be addressed now? Try running the following (got this
>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >> >> > Martin):
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > $ more test.ufl
>> >> >> >> > element = FiniteElement("Lagrange", interval, 1)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > ffc --verbose test.ufl
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Aslak
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 2014-07-24 19:14 GMT+02:00 Nico Schlömer
>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Okay, so the issue seems to be that the API for 1D differs
>> >> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> >> 2D
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> 3D. Consequently, the test needs to look differently, too.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> The 1D `tabulate_derivatives()` says:
>> >> >> >> >>         """Returns a tuple of length one (A,) such that
>> >> >> >> >>         A[i,j] = D phi_i(pts[j]).  The tuple is returned for
>> >> >> >> >>         compatibility with the interfaces of the triangle and
>> >> >> >> >>         tetrahedron expansions."""
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> 2D and 3D say:
>> >> >> >> >>         # Put data in the required data structure, i.e.,
>> >> >> >> >>         # k-tuples which contain the value, and the k-1
>> >> >> >> >> derivatives
>> >> >> >> >>         # (gradient, Hessian, ...)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> This should probably be aligned, but the API will break. I
>> >> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> >> say
>> >> >> >> >> that this needs to be addressed at some point, but the removal
>> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> ScientificPython/Python3 operability is a different issue. For
>> >> >> >> >> now,
>> >> >> >> >> you could just adjust the test for 1D.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> >> >> Nico
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > I have added a test for 1D now, you can see it in [2].
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Yes, I was talking about [1].
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Aslak
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > [2]
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > https://bitbucket.org/aslakbergersen/fiat/branch/aslakbergersen/topic-prepare-py3
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > 2014-07-24 17:31 GMT+02:00 Nico Schlömer
>> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > The code is a little opaque and the returned data
>> >> >> >> >> >> > structure
>> >> >> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > mix
>> >> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> > lists and tuples and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > numpy arrays that differ between 2D and 1D and is not
>> >> >> >> >> >> > documented
>> >> >> >> >> >> > well.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Indeed! When I dived into the code it was hard to figure
>> >> >> >> >> >> out
>> >> >> >> >> >> what
>> >> >> >> >> >> data
>> >> >> >> >> >> structure is needed since everything seems quite convoluted
>> >> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> >> first.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Cleanup and documentation is needed here.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --Nico
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Martin Sandve Alnæs
>> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Note: This is about 1D elements, not linear.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Aslak, can you link to the bitbucket branch where you've
>> >> >> >> >> >> > fixed
>> >> >> >> >> >> > some
>> >> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > other issues with Nicos branch, so others can download it
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > get
>> >> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > issue?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Basically the tabulate_derivative method doesn't return a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > data
>> >> >> >> >> >> > structure
>> >> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the right format so indexing errors occur. The code is a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > little
>> >> >> >> >> >> > opaque
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the returned data structure is a mix of lists and tuples
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > numpy
>> >> >> >> >> >> > arrays
>> >> >> >> >> >> > that differ between 2D and 1D and is not documented well.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Martin
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On 23 July 2014 13:59, Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I found an error in your implementation in fiat, Nico.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> And
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> having
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> some
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> trouble removing it. It is an error for all linear
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> elements
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> tested by fiat), and can be easy be reconstructed by
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> running
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> element = FiniteElement("Lagrange", interval, 1)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> The problem seems to be that tabulate_derivative in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> LineExpansionSet
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> not changed to return the same as tabulate_derivative in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> TriangleExpansionSet and TetrahedronExpansionSet. Is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> there
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> an
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> easy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fix
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> this?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Aslak
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-06-29 22:31 GMT+02:00 Nico Schlömer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Changing idioms
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > 2py3 changes idioms that are "outdated". When running
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > script
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > it
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > changes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > type(t) != type(q)  to not isinstance(t, type(q)). Is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > something I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > should do?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Python syntax
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > The 2to3 scripts have the possibility to change the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > comma-syntax
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > correct
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > python syntax. For example, it changes (a,b) to (a,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > b).
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Should
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > run
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > this on
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > the files as well?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Those are things that Python2 linters like
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> pep8
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> pyflakes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> flake8
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> usually bring up too. I would say that getting FEniCS
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> clean
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> w.r.t.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those three (largely overlapping) improves the code
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> readability
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> quality.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Cheers,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Nico
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Hi!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I have some questions about the supporting to python
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > 3.x.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > You
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > can
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > take
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > look at the changes I have done if you want (or
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > need).
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Testing with python 3.3
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I have installed python 3.3 such that I can use it
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > when
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > want
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > (e.g.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > py3
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > script.py). However, when I'm running the tests all
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > dependencies
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > missing (For now I'm running python -3). So how do I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > build
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > it
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > with
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > python 3?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Support python 3.1
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > callable() returned in python 3.2, so there is no
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > need
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > change
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > it,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > unless
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > we want to support python 3.1?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Changing idioms
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > 2py3 changes idioms that are "outdated". When running
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > script
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > it
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > changes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > type(t) != type(q)  to not isinstance(t, type(q)). Is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > something I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > should do?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Python syntax
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > The 2to3 scripts have the possibility to change the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > comma-syntax
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > correct
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > python syntax. For example, it changes (a,b) to (a,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > b).
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Should
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > run
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > this on
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > the files as well?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Six module
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I have used the six modules to make it compatible
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > with
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > 2.x
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > 3.x,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > but
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I'm
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > a bit unsure where to put it, or how to properly
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > include
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > it
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > project
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > such that all files have access.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Mvh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > 993 22 848
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > 2014-05-23 12:56 GMT+02:00 Martin Sandve Alnæs
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> UFL doesn't use __metaclass__ but it uses __new__,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> behaviour
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> that the same? I'd like to clean up those parts at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> some
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> point
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> but I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> won't
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> have time before the summer.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> If we have to change behaviour of Expression we
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> should
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> consider
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> doing
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> simultaneously with the introduction of an
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Expression-like
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> ufl
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> type
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> will have several advantages.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Martin
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> On 23 May 2014 12:24, Johan Hake
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> And then there is the change of syntax for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> metaclasses
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Python3...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Just
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> goggle metaclass python 3 and there are several
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> pointers
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> different
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> syntax.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Maybe this will be a good point to throw out the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> usage
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> metaclasses
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> DOLFIN? What we need is to add a distinction
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> between
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> CompiledExpression and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Expression. I have tried this before with no luck
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> ;)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Johan
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Martin Sandve
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Alnæs
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Yes, and if we're lucky we can get to that point
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> without
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> much
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> work as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> sympy, since we don't have as much code.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> The 2to3 tool can do selective changes like change
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> print
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> ""
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> print("")
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> and fix exception syntax, which are compatible
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> with
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> 2.7.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> It can also do things like change "a =
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> dict.iteritems()"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> into
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> "a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> =
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> dict.items()" which changes the memory usage when
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> run
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> on
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> 2.7.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> These
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> differences can instead be resolved by using the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> python
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> module
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> "six"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> which
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> implements cross-compatible helper functions for a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> lot
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> things.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Btw when we switch we should go straight to python
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> 3.3-3.4.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Supporting 3.0-3.2 side by side with 2.7 is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> apparently
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> harder.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> (Note to Aslak: read the link from Jan!)
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Martin
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> On 22 May 2014 11:22, Jan Blechta
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Note that there is also an approach of having
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> simultaneously
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> 2.x
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> 3.x
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> compatible codebase without a need of using 2to3.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Allegedly,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> this
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> used in SymPy, NumPy and SciPy projects. See
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> http://ondrejcertik.blogspot.cz/2013/08/how-to-support-both-python-2-and-3.html
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Jan
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> On Thu, 22 May 2014 11:05:43 +0200
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Martin Sandve Alnæs <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > The plan for the initial work here is to keep
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > code
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > python
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > 2.7
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > compatible but ready for a later swift switch
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > to 3
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > only.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > I
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > suggest we
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > release fenics 1.5 with python 2.7
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > compatibility
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > intact
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > but
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > convertible to python 3 by just running py2to3.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Otherwise
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > there
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > will
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > be too much simultaneous breakage. Then we can
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > discuss
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > whether
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > we
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > leave python 2.7 behind in fenics 1.6 or not.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > However, I haven't thought about the swig side
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > dolfin,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Johan
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > mentions keeping the Python CAPI code
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > compatible
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > not
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > covered
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > by
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > py2to3. I'll discuss this with Johan and Aslak.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Martin
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > On 22 May 2014 10:49, Garth N. Wells
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > Nice. Do we want to support Python 2.7 and 3,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > or
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > would
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > it
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > be
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > more
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > sustainable to go all Python 3? My preference
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > simplicity
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > low maintenance, which points to Python 3
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > only
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > support.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > Garth
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > On Thu, 22 May, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Martin
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > Sandve
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > Alnæs
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> We have a summer intern at Simula, Aslak
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> Bergersen,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> who will work on preparations for python 3
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> support
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> FEniCS,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> as well as some other FEniCS tasks, from
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> late
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> June
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> throughout July.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> The preparations for python 3 involves
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> mainly:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> - Replacing ScientificPython for AD in FIAT
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> - Applying and committing backwards
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> compatible
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> parts
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> py2to3
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> - Replacing several functions such as
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> dict.iteritems
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> with
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> six.iteritems in UFL and possibly FFC to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> make
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> sure
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> we
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> keep
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> same performance and memory behaviour with
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> python
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> 2
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> 3.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> I will be on vacation part of his time here
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> so
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> please
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> help him out if he has questions to the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> list.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> Martin
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> fenics mailing list
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> http://fenicsproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fenics
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Mvh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > 993 22 848
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > fenics mailing list
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mvh
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 993 22 848
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> > Mvh
>> >> >> >> >> > Aslak Bergersen
>> >> >> >> >> > 993 22 848
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>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> > 993 22 848
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Mvh
>> >> > Aslak Bergersen
>> >> > 993 22 848
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