Hi. Looking at my own mail, I notice it added a Cc header to myself that
is completely unjustified and causes annoying copies to be sent directly
to myself, creating a likelihood of thread split.

Mailing-list administrators, could you look into it and fix it please?

(Is there a direct address for the mailing-list administrators?)

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:35:33 +0200
From: Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel <[email protected]>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <[email protected]>
Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: Contributing with command-line alone

Hi.

Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel (HE12026-04-26):
> I suggest you get a backtrace and report this to the gcli developers
> it seems it is actively developed

As I said in the mail I just sent, using git head instead of the version
in Debian seems to work.

But now just replying to the mailing-list just works, and that is very
good, I will just do that. Thanks again for that.

> I agree 100% that it should be documented
> 
> I dont think threats and force would bring anyone to document it
> What works is if people understand the importance, and care about the project
> The other way that works, is if someone is payed to do it.

It is not a threat.

Am I the only one who remembers this whole thing is an EXPERIMENT?

Well, when there is an experiment, at some point one must observe the
results and draw conclusions.

So, as leader, what observations do you make and what conclusions do you
draw?

Is it a frank success, shall we continue?

Is it a failure, shall we drop it and go back to something that works?

Or is it in-between, shall we go back to what we were doing and try
again in a few years fixing our mistakes?

What I observe from here:

- Promises of documentation were made and not kept.

- We have a worsening of the communication in the project due to a
  fragmentation of the discussions into pull requests that only a
  handful of people follow, it has lead to patches being applied without
  a proper review and containing severe flaws.

I do not call that a success.

> I think if you just wrote (and pushed, ideally after review) documentation, 
> that would work
> better.

I cannot write documentation for things I am not capable of doing.


By the way, I just enable 2FA on my account, so you can make it able to
approve or close pull requests and such if you please.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George
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