On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:13:11PM +0100, Víctor Paesa wrote: > Hi, > > On Dec 3, 2007 3:33 PM, Diego Biurrun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:30:33PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:33:49AM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > > > [...] > > > > the first hit in Google to find out. I would not bother trying to help > > > > him like you guys are doing, but ignore him instead. Sad but true. > > > > > > everyone first helps and is shocked by the attitude of people like you > > > have nowadays :) > > > then after a few years on a mailinglist of a somewhat bigger and popular > > > project everyone ends with the same attitude of "just ignore these mails" > > > or even more evil things > > > > > > iam wondering if theres anyone who isnt following that trend, it doesnt > > > seem so if even you have now finally succumbed to the dark side ... > > > > It is sad to be disillusioned, but it may well be a fact of life. > > Nowadays I mostly dismiss mails with Outlook (Express) in the X-Mailer > > field or from known-broken webmail addresses right away. The signal to > > noise ratio is just too low in my experience. > > Hey, maybe it is because I still remember my first mails here (using a > @hotmail.com address), but I still have some hope in Mr. "jgh lrhgI": he > has switched to the right mail list, and he is fighting to use the > libavfilter API (and we do not have too many developers here). > > > I also have the impression that mailing list etiquette is in decline > > among newcomers. > > Fully agree, also real life etiquette is declining, maybe we are > getting too old ;o)
yeah, that reminds me that i read somewhere that the ancient greek 2000years ago where also complaining about the worseing of peoples especially youth manners i guess we are forgeting that we once didnt know what top posting is, how to quote properly, which ML to use for something, how to code, ... i think someone should write a little script which detects bad mails and sends replies with clear explanations for these as well as helping people unsubscribe and all that for safety the script might also ask a human first before sending a mail to prevent even more nonsense floating around (it would reduce the work to a single keypress instead of writing an actual mail ...) detecting many bad things is easy (though its also easy to mess up) too long lines detection: if more them 50% of the non quoted non empty lines are >80 chars top posting detection: if more text is before the "On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:13:11PM +0100, Víctor Paesa wrote:" line than non quoted non / signature text after it too large signature detection: well if sig is larger then 5 lines, this would also detect these confidential delete the mail you are not blah footers thread hijacking: if no Re: in subject but inreplyto header ... Note: such a script can be run as a cronjob on any ones system no need to change anything on the server Note2: and for maximum effect, choose a female name as sender and make the script send mails which appear to be written by a human instead of a script [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB If a bugfix only changes things apparently unrelated to the bug with no further explanation, that is a good sign that the bugfix is wrong.
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