On 05/24/2018 12:23 PM, Moritz Barsnick wrote:
Hi Sully,

I am trying to come up with a reliable method to burn my 3D BluRays
to disk as
Are you burning, as in "creating an optical disc", or are you ripping,
as in "writing the BluRay disk's content to a file on harddisk"?

Ripping.  Ultimately, I want to write the contents of my 3D BluRays to 3D SBS MP4 files on harddisk.

I apologize for using the wrong word.  I'm actually still early enough in the learning process, I know that I don't always use the correct terms.

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 22:07:06 -0400, Sully Beck wrote:
I'm not sure why you say that this cannot be correct.  I promise that
the above command is EXACTLY what I typed.
Yes, but it is not exactly what the frame rate is. Have you even
compared the output of your mediainfo commands?

-Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
+Frame rate                               : 23.976 (23976/1000) FPS

I had compared those two lines.  I could see that the ratio was different, but I had assumed that they were 'close enough'. Probably another bad assumption on my part.  I'm sure I've made several of those in this process.  I will try again, again.


The latter is from ffmpeg. You should have told ffmpeg to use
"24000/1001", to be precise. It may or may not matter for your player
though.

I do mean that the quality of the encoded file (ffmpeg) is inferior to
the PavTube version.
Did you notice that you did "imitate" some of the details of the
PavTube encoding, but not all? If, again, you compared your outputs,
you would have noticed differences such as:
  Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
-Format profile                           : [email protected]
+Format profile                           : [email protected]
  Format settings, CABAC                   : No
-Format settings, ReFrames                : 1 frame
+Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
  Codec ID                                 : avc1

Like the framerate difference above, I saw those differences, but I wasn't sure that they would matter.  I probably need to just work to reproduce all of them.  I'll spend a bit more time and report back in a day or two.


and especially:

-Writing library                          : x264 core 148
-Encoding settings                        : cabac=0 / ref=1 /
-deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=dia / subme=7 / psy=1 /
-psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=4 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 /
-8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 /
-threads=1 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 /
-interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 /
-weightp=0 / keyint=12 / keyint_min=7 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 /
-rc_lookahead=12 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=15000 / ratetol=1.0 /
-qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
-Language                                 : English
+Writing library                          : x264 core 152
+Encoding settings                        : cabac=0 / ref=3 /
+deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 /
+psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 /
+8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 /
+threads=24 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1
+/ interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 /
+b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 /
+weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 /
+rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=15000 / ratetol=1.0 /
+qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00

Since PavTube uses libx264, you may have a chance of duplicating its
results if you use those exact setting for x264. I don't know if you
can hit them with an ffmpeg combination of "-preset" and bandwidth (and
"-crf") options, or you have to duplicate them through the "x264opts"
and "x264-params" options. But that's worth a try, unless someone
figures out from looking at this why it yields worde results.

I'm confused that ffmpeg's options seem to be trying harder to get a
good quality/bandwidth ratio, but don't succeed according to your
observation. But I'm no expert.

Good luck,
Moritz

Thanks for your reply.  I'll reply again once I've gotten closer.


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