On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:45:43  
 Marvin Demuth wrote:
>I have read the recent debates over working with raw files and those 
>produced via profiles and I am confused.
>
>In working with scanning color negatives, if you choose to work with the 
>raw file that is supposed to have all the information in pure form, what is 
>your starting point for getting an acceptable image on your monitor as your 
>starting point for your adjustments?  Obviously, some software has to used.
>
>I am trying to relate this to printing color negatives, which is within my 
>experience.  With this process, for any degree of efficiency, you have to 
>start with color filtration commensurate with the film you are using.
=====

Confusion is part of the process, certainly in my experience! :-)

I don't know what scanner you're using; that's important. Using "profiles" can be 
confusing, and with the help of a few Filmscanners, I've learned what they are about. 
What they are about is mainly concerned with going from one medium from another, or 
one "device" to another. Since you're going for prints, they *are* important. "Real 
Life Photoshop" is a book that details the various choices 
of Color Management about as well as anything I've seen. Your library or favorite 
bookstore should have this book.

When you're working with color negs, Raw scans can be (and are) intimidating. In the 
first place, they're backwards, so you normally have to Invert them to see what you're 
looking at. When you do that, you have little idea of what the carrier medium (the 
film itself) has done to you, or your picture. I've found that Adjust/Auto Levels in 
Photoshop does a remarkable job of bringing the picture back 'round to where you 
thought it should be. Not perfect--you'll have to "tweak" it--but good. The recent 
thread about 120 film profiling was very informative about what happens when you scan 
an image.

If you're scanning Raw images into your editing software (Photoshop, PicturePerfect, 
or whatever), you need to either have some idea about what the scene looked like at 
the time, what it *should* have looked like, or what you *want* it to look like. That 
"The Camera Never Lies" is no longer true (cf Michael Crichton's "Rising Sun"). The 
camera, coupled with the software you have or can make available, will say almost 
anything you're capable of making it say!

Beyond that, refer back a few msgs to what Ed Hamric had to say about how Vuescan 
deals with film, images, defaults, etc. Very informative.

Filmscanning is neither Rocket Science nor a Perfect 
Science. It's fun, it's interesting, it's on the Edge. 
And for those doing it for a living--it keeps them on their toes and makes them better 
persons! ;-)

Best regards--LRA


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