On 2002/10/13 09:45 AM or thereabouts, Andrew Stiller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> intoned:

> The difference is, as I explained (for the umpteenth time) in another
> post, that the use of bass clef is simply not obsolete. It is
> absolutely current in the areas where it has been traditional.

Look, Andrew, I'm sorry if you're tired of pointing this out but there's no
need to get testy.  I don't follow every thread here (does anyone?) and this
is the first time I've heard you (or anyone else) mention that German bass
clef notation is not obsolete.  This contradicts other information I've run
across.  I'm happy to take your word for it, though.

> But aside from that, we were talking about the term "non-standard",
> and you provided a definition whereby, indeed, the old  horn notation
> is not non-standard. If that doesn't satisfy you, then you need to
> refine your definition.

Come on, now, you know very well that I meant "nonstandard" *today*, not as
it applies to the entire body of orchestral repertoire past and present.
There are any number of archaic notational practices that are rightly
avoided today -- would you also claim that writing an Eb in one octave when
you intend it to apply to E's in all octaves is also "not nonstandard"?
This whole question came up when someone wondered why a composer *today* (in
the non-Germanic world) would want to notate the bass clarinet in bass clef.

- Darcy

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