Boulez - modernist -- although he appears to deny that now.
Cage - post modern before the term then went modernist, then left the scene entirely.
Crumb - most certainly post-modern
Messiaen -- had some modernistic tendencies (but I don't think he really meant them) and I'm reluctant to classify him as post-modern although it may be only for the pejorative reason that he was an unrepentant catholic occultist. Further, the bird stuff ameliorates a pomo label. So, for myself I give him his own category of which my tentative label is humanistic ecological music.
Maybe it has to do with how gadfly your beliefs are.
Been fun...
Jerry Berg
Andrew Stiller wrote:
I got into a debate with someone over Postmodernism, and realized that I had no clear idea of what the term was supposed to mean when applied to music. In the other arts, the term indicates the incorporation of stylistic gestures from the past into an otherwise modernist idiom, but a lot of people seem to apply it more broadly to music. So here's a list of composers; which if any of them would you folks say are "post-modern" in style? What's the criterion?
George Crumb
John Cage
Karlheinz Stockhausen
Pierre Boulez
Olivier Messiaen
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