> > > Human beings do not think of equations and physics when they move --
> > > they just move. Physics is involved, but not at any conscious level,
> > > and not at any significant level.
> >
> > On the contrary, the preparation for the precise movements in
> > performing music involves detailed conscious thought about movement.
>
> But not about *physics*, except in the debased sense that I've been
> so heavily criticized for pointing out.

I do not know how putting asterisks around the word changes what you mean by
it.

> > When I am practicing I am consciously applying principles and solving
> > problems in physics such as conservation of momentum, distribution of
> > forces, and lengths and angles of of compund levers. Knowing those
> > principles of physics has helped make my learning of the movements
> > more efficient. That all of this eventually becomes unconscious (or at
> > least out of present awareness) through practice in no way negates the
> > importance of physics.
>
> But it doesn't make them *signficant* to making music -- it's
> technique, not music. Yes, technique is essential to mastery of the
> music, but you can have all the technique in the world and produce
> nothing of musical significance.

A weak rhetorical dodge because, conversely, with no technique at all you
produce no music at all. The difference in our positions is not so
symmetrical, however. You have been claiming that physics has NO
significance while I say that it has SOME significance.

> I guess I think about music in an entirely different fashion than
> most people do. That might explain why I find much of what I hear
> produced by musicians so incredibly lacking in basic musicianship.
> Maybe they're all thinking about angular momentum, levers and
> distribution of forces instead of thinking about phrasing and
> expression and dynamics and balance and agogics.

We have all heard them, too. But it is not logical to conclude that, because
they think only of physics, that physics has no significance in music. Do
you also think that, because there are uninspiring recipe-bound cooks,
chemistry has no significance in cooking?

Richard Yates


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