On 18 Feb 2005 at 9:37, Steve Gibons wrote: > On Feb 18, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Phil Daley wrote: > > > At 2/18/2005 10:13 AM, JD wrote: > > > > >I am on a Mac, IE 5.2, and the pages do indeed load without any > > vertical > > >scroll bars. But, if I resize the window slightly, they appear > > >fine. Funny, I have this same trouble with my own site and IE 5.2. > > > > > Personally, I > > >think it's a Microcrap issue. But if you do figure it out, let me > > know how > > >you did it. > > > > That is the only web page I have ever seen that was bigger than the > > Browser window and didn't have a vertical scroll bar. > > > > There must be something in your HTML code that is incorrect. > > I have seen that in IE before. But I would imagine it has something to > do with the style sheet, not the html code.
IE is "well-known" (i.e., notorious) for its completely broken implementation of the so-called "box model" for layout with style sheets. Whereas the standards define the relationships between a box, it's margins and borders in one way, IE puts the margin/border settings in the wrong place (I forget the exact details). The result is that percentage settings for width or height for containers are incorrectly honored -- you can set a width of 100% for a container and you'll end up with a horizontal scrollbar. The same code/style will produce a correct result on all other browsers (it also works correctly on early versions of IE, up to IE5, I think). So, IE may be incorrectly calculating the vertical size in terms of the box model, and this is why the scrollbars do not appear until you resize the window to a size that is smaller than what IE incorrectly thinks the window's size really is. This is one of the myriad reasons why no one should be using IE for anything at all -- it's a pile of crap in comparison to any modern browser (IE is not a modern browser, as its rendering code does not reflect the last 5 years of W3C standards). -- David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associates http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale