On 8 Jul 2005 at 21:18, Christopher Smith wrote:

> On Jul 8, 2005, at 5:24 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> > On 8 Jul 2005 at 10:21, Christopher Smith wrote:
> >
> >> My trick was (for 4 sixteenths, a quintuplet, and a quarter note)
> >> to say out loud "TEE-ry tee-ry MATH-e-ma-ti-cal TAH." My nine year
> >> old can do it (I tested it out on him.)
> >
> > Hmm. You pronounce "mathematical" differently than I do. My rhythm
> > for it is 8th 8th 16th 16th 8th, with "ma-ti" being a subdivision of
> > the length of the other syllables. In other words, four feet.
> 
> Canadian. I have no other explanation.
> 
> This came up a while ago, and some regions drop the "e", making it
> four syllables, not unlike the beginning of a Viennese waltz QEEQ.

I pronounce all the syllables, just in a different rhythm than you.

The rhythm of English is foot-based, and that's why it comes out that 
way. Of course, that contrasts with Italian, which is *not* foot-
based.

> > Yes, I can distort the pronunciation to be a quintuplet.
> 
> Try this one from an older musician than I am: for quintuplets say
> "Lollobrigida." For septuplets, say "Gina Lollobrigida." Hey, works
> for me!

Well, if you don't mind the implied accent pattern of GIna 
LOLloBRIgida, it seems OK to me -- because it's Italian, the lengths 
of the syllables all come out the same, but there's very marked 
strong/weak patterning there.

I think it's better to learn these things without resort to imperfect 
analogs like this.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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